Explicit 40: MTV Special
Ep. 40

40: MTV Special

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Get

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on

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the

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radio

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star

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in

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my

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mind

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and

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in

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my

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car.

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We

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can't

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rewind.

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We've

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got

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too

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far.

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Pictures

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came

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and

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broke

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your

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heart.

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Hello

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and

0:19

welcome

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to

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Weekend

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Rewind.

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Weve

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gone

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too

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far.

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A

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podcast

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about

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music

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videos

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and

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how

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very

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strange

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they

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are.

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Neil

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has

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been

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busy

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with

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work

0:25

and

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life.

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So

0:26

Anna

0:26

has

0:27

kindly

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volunteered

0:27

to

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do

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a

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bit

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more

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regular

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hosting.

0:29

Hello

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again,

0:29

Anna.

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Hello,

0:30

everyone.

0:31

Hello.

0:31

It's

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lovely

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to

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be

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here

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more

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often.

0:34

I'm

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looking

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forward

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to

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it

0:35

Today

0:36

we're

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doing

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something

0:36

a

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bit

0:36

different.

0:37

I

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looked

0:37

back

0:38

on

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the

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channel,

0:38

which

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started

0:39

the

0:39

world's

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obsession

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with

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loosely

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attaching

0:41

videos

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to

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songs,

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MTV.

0:44

Your

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stereo

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and

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TV,

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I

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have

0:46

to

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bring

0:46

you

0:46

video

0:46

music

0:47

in

0:47

the

0:48

stereo,

0:48

24

0:49

hours.

1:01

MTV

1:03

music

1:03

television,

1:04

in

1:05

stereo,

1:05

you'll

1:06

never

1:06

look

1:06

at

1:06

music

1:06

the

1:07

same

1:07

way

1:07

again.

1:08

The

1:09

interview

1:10

was

1:10

launched

1:10

in

1:10

August

1:11

1st,

1:11

1981,

1:13

which

1:13

was

1:13

initially

1:13

only

1:13

available

1:14

in

1:14

New

1:14

Jersey,

1:15

but

1:15

very

1:15

soon

1:15

it

1:16

would

1:16

become

1:16

in

1:16

stream

1:17

cable

1:17

TV

1:17

in

1:17

the

1:17

US

1:18

and

1:18

eventually

1:18

across

1:19

the

1:19

whole

1:19

world.

1:19

The

1:20

very

1:20

1st

1:20

video

1:21

broadcast

1:21

was

1:21

video

1:22

killed,

1:22

the

1:22

radio

1:22

star

1:23

by

1:23

the

1:23

puddles,

1:24

very,

1:24

very

1:24

appropriate.

1:25

In

1:25

its

1:25

heyday,

1:26

it

1:26

was

1:26

the

1:26

centre

1:27

of

1:27

many

1:27

iconic

1:28

pop

1:28

culture

1:28

moments,

1:29

such

1:29

as

1:29

a

1:29

debut

1:30

of

1:30

classic

1:30

music

1:30

videos

1:31

like

1:31

Thriller

1:32

and

1:32

Smells

1:33

like

1:33

Thin

1:33

Spirits,

1:34

and

1:34

many

1:34

performances

1:35

like

1:35

MTV

1:36

Unplug

1:36

and

1:36

the

1:37

VMAs.

1:37

Do

1:38

a

1:38

little

1:38

addenda

1:38

here

1:39

that,

1:39

yes,

1:39

this

1:39

also

1:40

happened

1:40

in

1:40

Brazil,

1:41

and

1:41

we

1:41

had

1:42

their

1:42

very

1:42

own

1:42

version

1:42

of

1:43

DVMAs,

1:44

and

1:44

they

1:44

were

1:44

called

1:44

VMDs,

1:45

and

1:45

it

1:46

was

1:46

massive.

1:47

In

1:47

retrospect,

1:48

though

1:48

it

1:48

seems

1:48

radio

1:49

may

1:49

have

1:49

may

1:50

outlast

1:51

MTV,

1:52

at

1:52

least

1:52

in

1:52

a

1:52

musical

1:53

sense.

1:53

The

1:54

MTV

1:54

shutdown

1:55

is

1:55

remaining

1:56

music

1:56

channels

1:57

at

1:57

the

1:57

end

1:57

of

1:57

2025,

1:58

the

1:58

remaining

1:58

channels

1:59

is

1:59

still

1:59

broadcasting,

2:00

mine,

2:00

them

2:01

in

2:01

reality

2:01

TV

2:01

programming,

2:02

which

2:03

kind

2:03

of

2:03

took

2:03

over

2:04

MTV

2:04

towards

2:05

the

2:05

end.

2:05

And

2:06

with

2:06

internet-based

2:07

companies

2:08

such

2:08

as

2:08

YouTube,

2:09

we

2:09

were

2:09

becoming

2:09

the

2:09

main

2:09

source

2:10

of

2:10

music

2:10

video-based

2:11

fund

2:11

for

2:12

people

2:12

that's

2:13

slow

2:13

and

2:14

painful

2:14

death

2:15

to

2:15

the

2:15

MTV

2:15

that

2:16

we

2:16

all

2:16

know

2:16

and

2:17

loved.

2:30

MTV

2:32

is

2:32

dead.

2:33

Long

2:33

live

2:34

MTV.

2:34

Uh,

2:35

we

2:35

decided

2:36

to

2:36

stay

2:36

just

2:37

having

2:37

a

2:37

single

2:37

video

2:38

music

2:38

video

2:38

to

2:39

discuss

2:39

today.

2:39

We

2:40

will

2:40

discuss

2:41

our

2:41

general

2:42

experience

2:42

and

2:42

memories,

2:43

then

2:44

be

2:44

either

2:44

being

2:45

sweet

2:45

or

2:45

bitter

2:46

or

2:46

angry

2:47

or

2:47

neither

2:48

of

2:48

those

2:48

with

2:49

MTV

2:49

and

2:50

using

2:50

channels

2:51

ruling

2:52

our

2:52

lives

2:52

in

2:52

the

2:52

90s

2:53

in

2:53

the

2:53

early

2:54

2000s.

2:54

Open

2:54

floor,

2:55

everyone.

2:55

So,

2:56

yes,

2:57

MTV

2:58

and

2:58

Brazil,

2:59

it

3:00

was

3:00

freshly

3:00

out

3:01

of

3:01

military

3:01

dictatorship,

3:02

so

3:03

it

3:03

was

3:03

a

3:03

builder,

3:04

but

3:04

like,

3:04

oh,

3:04

hell

3:04

yeah.

3:06

Time

3:08

to

3:08

party.

3:11

Oi,

3:13

it

3:21

was

3:21

massive.

3:21

It

3:22

was

3:22

J.

3:22

Normous.

3:23

Uh,

3:24

it

3:24

was

3:24

still

3:24

at

3:25

a

3:25

time

3:25

that

3:25

uh,

3:27

TVs

3:27

would

3:27

shut

3:28

off

3:28

for

3:29

the

3:29

night

3:29

and

3:29

like

3:30

if

3:30

you

3:30

turned

3:30

off,

3:31

if

3:31

you

3:31

turned

3:31

on

3:31

TV

3:31

in

3:32

the

3:32

middle

3:32

of

3:32

the

3:32

night,

3:33

there

3:33

would

3:33

be

3:33

nothing,

3:33

it's

3:33

just

3:33

like

3:34

the

3:34

static

3:34

of

3:34

it

3:34

and

3:35

like

3:35

MTV

3:35

Brazil

3:36

was

3:36

the

3:36

1st

3:36

channel

3:37

to

3:37

ever

3:37

do

3:37

that.

3:38

And

3:38

they

3:39

did

3:39

have

3:39

it

3:39

in

3:39

open

3:40

TV

3:40

for

3:40

the

3:41

start,

3:41

even

3:42

though

3:42

not

3:42

for

3:42

all-state,

3:43

massive

3:44

country

3:44

and

3:44

all

3:44

of

3:45

that.

3:45

But

3:45

I

3:45

remember

3:46

how

3:47

happy

3:47

and

3:48

ecstatic

3:48

my

3:49

brother,

3:49

my

3:49

older

3:49

brother

3:50

was

3:50

when

3:50

MTV

3:51

was

3:51

like

3:51

coming,

3:52

started

3:52

in

3:53

the

3:53

1990s

3:53

in

3:54

Brazil,

3:54

1990,

3:55

to

3:55

be

3:55

precise.

3:56

And

3:56

we

3:57

had

3:57

a

3:57

military

3:58

dictatorship

3:58

in

3:59

Brazil

3:59

that

3:59

had

4:00

an

4:00

embargo

4:01

on

4:01

like

4:02

cultural

4:02

things

4:02

coming

4:03

from

4:03

outside.

4:03

So

4:04

there

4:04

was

4:05

still

4:05

this

4:05

fresh

4:05

feeling

4:06

of

4:06

all

4:07

this

4:07

floods

4:08

of

4:08

cultural

4:09

influences

4:10

from

4:10

around

4:11

the

4:11

world,

4:12

which

4:12

was

4:12

massive

4:13

back

4:13

home

4:13

and

4:14

like

4:14

having

4:14

the

4:15

opportunity

4:15

to

4:15

watch

4:16

all

4:16

of

4:16

this

4:16

video

4:17

clips

4:17

of

4:17

like

4:18

seeing

4:18

what

4:18

was

4:19

happening

4:19

and

4:19

what

4:20

other

4:20

artists

4:20

were

4:21

doing

4:21

all

4:21

the

4:22

way

4:22

to

4:22

like

4:23

the

4:23

sounds

4:24

as

4:24

it

4:25

was

4:25

very

4:25

hard

4:25

to

4:25

import

4:26

any

4:26

kind

4:26

of

4:27

instruments

4:27

before.

4:28

It

4:28

really

4:29

caused

4:29

a

4:29

boom

4:30

of

4:30

even

4:31

like

4:31

Brazilian

4:32

music

4:32

to

4:32

further

4:33

develop

4:33

a

4:34

very,

4:34

very

4:35

big

4:35

influence

4:35

as

4:35

well

4:36

on

4:36

the

4:36

quality

4:36

of

4:37

the

4:37

video

4:37

clips

4:37

that

4:38

were

4:38

being

4:38

made.

4:39

So

4:39

the

4:39

video

4:39

clips

4:40

arrived

4:40

like

4:41

from

4:41

international

4:42

shores

4:42

and

4:43

to

4:43

name

4:43

2

4:44

that

4:44

are

4:44

like

4:45

the

4:45

2

4:45

that

4:46

come

4:46

to

4:46

me

4:46

is

4:47

the

4:48

green

4:48

jelly,

4:48

the

4:48

3

4:49

little

4:49

pigs,

4:49

which

4:49

is

4:50

like,

4:50

oh,

4:50

stop

4:50

motion

4:51

elevation,

4:52

which

4:52

is

4:52

amazing

4:52

and

4:53

uh,

4:54

ugly

4:54

kid

4:54

Joe

4:55

as

4:55

well

4:55

that

4:55

has

4:56

like

4:56

that

4:56

kite

4:57

that

4:57

isn't

4:57

like

4:57

an

4:58

inflatable

4:58

uh,

4:59

sex

4:59

doll.

5:00

Uh,

5:00

but

5:01

it's

5:01

just

5:01

I'm

5:02

like

5:02

playing

5:03

on

5:03

the

5:03

beach

5:03

with

5:04

all

5:04

of

5:04

the

5:04

instruments.

5:05

Nothing

5:05

is

5:05

plugged,

5:06

the

5:06

whole

5:06

thing.

5:07

So

5:07

that

5:07

was

5:08

like

5:08

some

5:08

of

5:08

my

5:08

1st

5:09

interactions

5:09

with

5:10

it.

5:10

One

5:11

thing

5:11

that

5:11

I

5:11

find

5:11

really,

5:12

really

5:12

interesting

5:13

is

5:13

that

5:14

to

5:14

me,

5:15

the

5:15

birth

5:16

of

5:16

the

5:16

influencer

5:17

as

5:18

a

5:18

career

5:19

that

5:19

is

5:19

so

5:20

popular

5:20

now,

5:20

in

5:21

my

5:21

head,

5:21

that

5:22

started

5:22

with

5:22

the

5:22

MTV

5:23

VJs,

5:24

because

5:25

the

5:26

shows,

5:26

they

5:26

had

5:26

different

5:27

shows

5:27

and

5:27

each

5:28

show

5:28

had

5:28

a

5:28

different

5:28

VJ

5:29

and

5:30

they

5:30

would

5:30

present

5:31

their

5:31

top

5:32

music

5:32

that

5:33

they

5:33

were

5:33

listening

5:33

to

5:34

or

5:34

their

5:34

favourite

5:35

video

5:35

clips.

5:36

And

5:36

there

5:36

was

5:37

even

5:37

one

5:37

that

5:38

was,

5:38

his

5:38

name

5:38

was

5:39

Marcus

5:39

Mio,

5:40

and

5:40

he

5:40

had

5:40

like

5:41

a

5:41

little,

5:42

you

5:42

know,

5:42

like

5:42

those

5:43

like

5:43

toys

5:43

or

5:44

like

5:44

a

5:44

pony

5:44

head

5:44

in

5:45

a

5:45

broomstick.

5:45

And

5:46

he'd

5:46

like

5:46

point

5:47

at

5:47

like

5:47

what

5:47

was

5:48

happening

5:48

in

5:48

the

5:49

video

5:49

clips

5:49

and

5:49

why

5:50

he

5:50

thought

5:50

that

5:50

that

5:50

was

5:51

interesting

5:51

and

5:51

why

5:51

that

5:52

man

5:52

twated

5:53

meant,

5:53

it

5:54

was

5:54

like

5:54

a

5:54

whole

5:54

thing.

5:54

Sorry,

5:55

what

5:55

do

5:56

you

5:56

mean

5:56

a

5:56

pony

5:56

hidden

5:57

stick

5:57

that

5:57

you

5:58

point

5:58

with?

5:58

That's

5:59

exactly

6:00

what

6:00

I

6:01

meant.

6:01

You

6:01

know

6:02

hobby

6:02

horsing

6:03

is

6:03

a

6:03

sport?

6:04

Becoming

6:05

quite

6:05

popular.

6:05

Okay.

6:06

Where

6:07

people

6:07

ride

6:07

horses

6:09

that

6:09

are

6:09

essentially

6:10

Tony,

6:11

like

6:11

toy

6:11

horses.

6:12

Yeah,

6:13

okay.

6:13

No,

6:14

that

6:14

was

6:14

becoming

6:15

popular.

6:15

Yeah.

6:16

Yeah.

6:17

Brazil,

6:18

always

6:18

a

6:18

hit.

6:18

Brazil,

6:19

you

6:20

give

6:20

us

6:20

something

6:21

and

6:21

we

6:21

just

6:21

extrapolate.

6:22

That's

6:23

that's

6:23

our

6:23

best.

6:24

That's

6:25

the

6:25

best

6:25

way

6:25

to

6:25

see

6:25

Brazil,

6:26

I

6:26

think.

6:27

So

6:27

you

6:27

had

6:27

like

6:28

this

6:28

whole

6:28

new

6:29

aspect

6:30

of

6:30

like

6:31

suddenly

6:32

and

6:32

they

6:33

would

6:33

like

6:33

run

6:33

auditions

6:34

all

6:34

around

6:34

Brazil

6:35

to

6:35

like

6:35

just

6:35

bring

6:36

people

6:36

in

6:36

to

6:36

become

6:36

VJs.

6:37

And

6:38

I

6:38

remember

6:38

in

6:39

school

6:39

it

6:40

just

6:40

being

6:40

like,

6:40

okay,

6:41

what

6:41

do

6:42

you

6:42

want

6:42

to

6:42

be

6:42

when

6:42

you

6:42

grow

6:43

up?

6:43

And

6:43

like,

6:44

honestly,

6:44

so

6:44

many

6:44

people

6:45

be

6:45

like,

6:45

I

6:45

want

6:45

to

6:45

be

6:46

an

6:46

app

6:46

TV

6:46

VJ.

6:47

That

6:47

was

6:47

like

6:47

what

6:48

they

6:48

wanted

6:48

to

6:48

be.

6:49

Wow.

6:49

Because

6:50

it

6:50

was

6:50

so

6:51

cool.

6:51

And

6:52

those

6:52

people

6:52

who

6:53

went

6:53

on

6:53

to

6:53

have

6:54

like

6:54

very

6:54

big

6:55

careers,

6:55

like,

6:56

I

6:57

think

6:57

one

6:57

of

6:57

them

6:57

ended

6:58

up,

6:58

like

6:58

even

6:58

involved

6:59

with

6:59

Victoria's

6:59

Secrets.

7:00

They

7:00

had

7:00

their

7:01

own

7:01

shows,

7:01

they're

7:02

like

7:02

really

7:03

grew

7:03

out

7:03

from

7:04

that.

7:04

So

7:04

it

7:04

was

7:05

really

7:05

nice

7:05

to

7:05

be

7:05

able

7:05

to

7:05

see

7:06

all

7:06

of

7:06

those

7:06

things.

7:06

Also,

7:07

the

7:07

opening

7:07

access

7:08

to

7:09

international

7:09

shows

7:10

as

7:11

I

7:11

was

7:11

quite

7:11

young

7:11

when

7:12

that

7:12

whole

7:12

thing

7:13

was

7:13

happening

7:13

and

7:14

0

7:14

my

7:14

god,

7:15

South

7:15

Park.

7:16

I

7:16

have

7:17

a

7:17

deep

7:17

love

7:18

for

7:18

South

7:18

Park,

7:19

and

7:19

it

7:19

was

7:19

thanks

7:20

to

7:20

MTV

7:21

that

7:21

introduced

7:21

South

7:22

Park

7:22

to

7:22

me.

7:22

And

7:23

curious

7:24

fact

7:24

about

7:24

me

7:25

for

7:25

a

7:25

while,

7:25

I

7:26

was

7:26

able

7:26

to

7:26

watch

7:27

the

7:28

film,

7:28

South

7:29

Park,

7:29

bigger,

7:30

longer,

7:30

and

7:30

uncut,

7:31

and

7:31

I

7:32

could

7:32

repeat

7:32

every

7:33

single

7:33

line

7:33

along

7:33

with

7:34

it,

7:34

which

7:34

I

7:35

believe

7:35

was

7:35

great

7:35

for

7:36

my

7:36

English.

7:37

I

7:37

had

7:37

to

7:37

learn

7:38

English

7:38

somehow.

7:38

South

7:39

Park

7:40

was

7:40

that.

7:40

Were

7:41

they

7:41

doing

7:41

like

7:41

TV

7:41

shows

7:41

and

7:42

stuff

7:42

straight

7:42

out

7:42

the

7:43

gate

7:43

in

7:43

Brazil?

7:43

We

7:44

had

7:44

a

7:44

few

7:45

things.

7:45

So

7:45

it

7:45

started

7:46

off

7:46

with

7:46

this

7:46

idea

7:47

of

7:47

like

7:47

the

7:48

VJs

7:48

like

7:48

showing

7:49

things

7:49

and

7:50

then

7:50

they

7:50

started

7:50

with

7:51

people

7:52

like

7:52

interviewing

7:53

others

7:53

and

7:54

then

7:54

they

7:54

started

7:55

having

7:55

sketches

7:56

as

7:56

well.

7:57

So,

7:57

namely,

7:58

one

7:58

of

7:58

the

7:58

most

7:58

firm,

7:59

famous

7:59

ones

8:00

was

8:00

uh,

8:02

Hermes

8:02

and

8:02

Ghenato,

8:03

and

8:04

they

8:04

did

8:04

almost

8:04

like

8:05

uh,

8:05

it

8:06

was

8:06

loads

8:06

of

8:06

sketches

8:07

and

8:07

then

8:07

it

8:08

developed

8:08

into

8:09

much

8:09

bigger

8:09

productions.

8:10

Brazil

8:11

is

8:11

very

8:11

big

8:11

in

8:11

our

8:12

soap

8:12

operas,

8:12

and

8:13

they

8:13

did

8:13

spoof

8:14

of

8:14

the

8:14

soap

8:15

operas

8:15

in

8:15

like

8:16

many,

8:16

many

8:16

episodes,

8:18

but

8:18

they

8:18

were

8:18

heavily

8:19

influenced

8:20

by

8:20

people

8:20

like

8:20

so,

8:21

sorry,

8:21

like

8:21

uh,

8:21

multi-Python

8:22

as

8:22

like

8:23

an

8:23

international

8:23

thing

8:23

and

8:24

then

8:24

a

8:24

whole

8:24

bunch

8:24

of

8:24

Brazilian

8:25

comedians

8:25

and

8:26

comedic

8:27

troops

8:27

like

8:27

uh,

8:28

for

8:28

any

8:28

Brazilians

8:29

listening

8:29

there,

8:30

Ustra

8:30

Paloings,

8:31

and

8:31

Shakringa,

8:32

and

8:32

some

8:32

of

8:33

this

8:33

guy,

8:33

uh,

8:34

Tevi

8:34

Pirate

8:35

and

8:35

Casiete

8:36

Planet.

8:36

So

8:37

one

8:37

of

8:37

the

8:37

things

8:37

that

8:38

I

8:38

always,

8:39

every

8:39

time

8:39

I

8:40

think

8:40

about

8:40

MTV,

8:41

many,

8:42

many

8:42

video

8:43

clips

8:43

come

8:44

to

8:44

mind,

8:44

a

8:45

lot

8:45

of

8:45

international

8:45

ones,

8:46

but

8:46

since

8:47

I'm

8:47

talking

8:47

about

8:47

the

8:48

Brazilian

8:48

side

8:48

of

8:49

TV

8:49

and

8:49

about

8:50

how

8:50

the

8:51

exposure

8:52

of

8:53

international

8:53

video

8:54

clips

8:55

really

8:55

made

8:56

the

8:56

Brazilian

8:57

music

8:57

industry

8:58

kind

8:58

of

8:59

like,

8:59

okay,

8:59

we

8:59

need

9:00

to

9:00

put

9:00

more

9:00

effort

9:00

into

9:01

this.

9:01

There

9:02

is

9:02

this

9:02

video

9:02

club

9:02

that

9:03

is

9:03

like

9:03

always

9:03

in

9:04

my

9:04

mind

9:04

is

9:04

like

9:05

the

9:05

1st

9:05

like

9:05

Brazilian

9:06

video

9:06

clip

9:07

music

9:07

that

9:07

comes

9:07

to

9:08

my

9:08

head

9:08

if

9:08

I

9:08

think

9:09

about

9:09

MTV

9:09

and

9:10

uh,

9:10

is

9:10

uh,

9:11

allergist.

9:12

So

9:12

she

9:13

said

9:13

goodbye

9:13

from

9:13

Paralumas

9:14

to

9:14

Sasso,

9:15

which

9:15

means

9:16

successful

9:16

mudguards.

9:17

They

9:18

just

9:18

said

9:18

it

9:18

was

9:18

just

9:19

the

9:19

name

9:19

that

9:19

they

9:19

came

9:20

up

9:20

with.

9:21

There

9:21

is

9:21

a

9:21

story

9:21

to

9:22

that

9:22

name.

9:22

Why

9:23

would

9:23

the

9:24

mug

9:24

got

9:24

successful?

9:25

What

9:25

were

9:25

the

9:25

most

9:25

drugged

9:27

to

9:27

be

9:28

successful?

9:28

So

9:28

Brazil's

9:29

a

9:29

very,

9:29

very

9:30

big

9:30

place,

9:30

right?

9:31

So

9:31

you

9:31

have

9:31

big

9:32

trucks.

9:32

Quite

9:33

often

9:33

at

9:34

the

9:34

back

9:34

of

9:34

the

9:35

big

9:35

trucks,

9:35

like

9:36

with

9:36

the

9:37

mud

9:37

guards

9:37

that

9:37

are

9:38

actually

9:38

like

9:38

flappy

9:39

thingies.

9:40

They

9:40

have

9:40

messages,

9:41

like

9:41

faith

9:42

in

9:42

gods

9:43

or

9:43

I'm

9:44

in

9:44

the

9:45

road

9:45

here,

9:45

but

9:45

my

9:46

heart

9:46

is

9:46

at

9:46

home

9:46

and

9:47

there's

9:47

like

9:48

all

9:48

this

9:48

very

9:48

cheesy.

9:49

And

9:49

we

9:50

call

9:50

massaging

9:51

Jepada,

9:52

so

9:52

like

9:52

messages

9:52

from

9:53

the

9:53

mud

9:53

guards.

9:54

So

9:54

I

9:54

don't

9:54

know,

9:54

maybe

9:54

it's

9:55

just

9:55

like

9:55

successful

9:56

mudguards,

9:56

it

9:57

comes

9:57

a

9:57

little

9:57

bit

9:57

of

9:57

that

9:57

as

9:58

well.

9:58

Usually

9:59

people

9:59

didn't

9:59

call

9:59

them

10:00

by

10:00

the

10:00

full

10:00

name,

10:00

but

10:01

alumas,

10:02

they

10:02

usually

10:02

just

10:02

call

10:03

them

10:03

paralomas,

10:04

which

10:04

is

10:04

just

10:04

me,

10:04

mud

10:05

guards.

10:05

But

10:06

this

10:06

video

10:06

clip

10:07

is

10:07

very

10:07

interesting

10:07

because

10:08

it

10:08

was

10:09

in

10:09

from

10:09

1998.

10:11

This

10:11

was

10:11

a

10:11

very

10:12

good

10:12

choice

10:12

to

10:13

kind

10:13

of

10:13

like

10:14

connect

10:14

this

10:14

whole

10:15

thing

10:15

is

10:15

that

10:15

they

10:16

have

10:16

an

10:16

actress

10:17

that

10:17

was

10:18

invited

10:18

to

10:18

play

10:18

the

10:19

main

10:19

role.

10:19

Essentially,

10:20

what

10:20

happens

10:21

is

10:21

this

10:22

woman

10:22

and

10:22

she

10:22

has

10:23

3

10:23

partners.

10:24

They

10:24

all

10:24

live

10:24

together,

10:24

common

10:25

in

10:25

yourself.

10:25

Like

10:25

a

10:25

polycule.

10:26

Yeah,

10:26

like

10:26

a

10:27

polycule.

10:27

Yeah,

10:27

yeah,

10:28

yeah.

10:28

But

10:28

that

10:28

sad

10:28

one.

10:29

Sad

10:29

one.

10:30

They

10:30

start

10:30

off

10:30

nice

10:30

and

10:31

then

10:31

and

10:31

then

10:32

they

10:32

start

10:32

becoming

10:32

really

10:33

abusive

10:33

towards

10:34

her

10:34

and

10:34

she

10:34

just

10:35

creates

10:36

this

10:36

plan

10:36

of

10:36

revenge

10:37

and

10:38

is

10:38

very

10:39

theatrical.

10:40

filmed

10:40

in

10:40

the

10:41

Thailand

10:41

movie

10:42

style

10:42

and

10:43

with

10:43

even

10:43

the

10:43

little

10:43

tac,

10:44

tac,

10:44

tac,

10:44

tac,

10:44

tac

10:45

from

10:45

like

10:45

the,

10:45

the,

10:46

the

10:46

cameras

10:46

rolling

10:47

and

10:47

all

10:47

of

10:47

that

10:47

and

10:48

it's

10:48

just

10:48

her

10:49

starting

10:49

off

10:49

with

10:50

this

10:50

like

10:50

really

10:51

nice

10:51

relationship

10:51

and

10:52

waiting

10:52

for

10:52

them

10:53

at

10:53

home

10:53

with

10:53

dinner

10:53

and

10:54

then

10:54

being

10:54

really

10:55

shit

10:55

to

10:55

her.

10:55

And

10:56

then

10:56

she's

10:56

going

10:56

to

10:57

go

10:57

like,

10:57

you

10:57

know

10:57

what,

10:57

I'm

10:58

going

10:58

to

10:58

kill

10:58

the

10:58

ambassador

10:58

and

10:59

dispose

11:00

of

11:00

their

11:00

bodies.

11:01

Nice.

11:02

This

11:02

actress,

11:03

she

11:04

is

11:04

massive

11:05

in

11:05

Brazil.

11:06

Her

11:06

mom

11:06

was

11:07

massive

11:07

already,

11:08

but

11:08

she,

11:09

her

11:09

daughter,

11:10

so

11:10

she's

11:10

Fernando

11:11

Torjis,

11:12

is

11:12

her

11:12

name,

11:12

and

11:12

she

11:13

was

11:13

in

11:14

the

11:14

last

11:14

latest

11:15

Brazilian

11:16

movie

11:16

who

11:16

was

11:16

indicated

11:17

for

11:17

the

11:18

Oscar.

11:18

Actually,

11:19

the

11:19

very

11:19

1st

11:20

time

11:20

a

11:20

Brazilian

11:20

movie

11:21

has

11:21

been

11:21

indicated

11:22

for

11:22

the

11:22

Oscar

11:23

is

11:23

like

11:23

the

11:23

general

11:24

Oscar,

11:25

not

11:25

just

11:25

international

11:25

film

11:26

Oscar.

11:27

So

11:27

we

11:27

were

11:27

indicated

11:28

and

11:28

that

11:28

was

11:28

the

11:29

very

11:29

1st

11:29

time

11:29

we

11:29

didn't

11:30

win.

11:30

We

11:30

did

11:30

win

11:31

the

11:31

international

11:31

film.

11:32

So

11:32

that

11:33

is

11:33

quite

11:33

nice.

11:33

But

11:34

yeah,

11:35

and

11:35

I

11:35

just

11:35

thought

11:35

that

11:36

was

11:36

an

11:37

interesting

11:37

connection

11:38

with

11:39

like

11:39

the

11:39

whole

11:39

end

11:40

of

11:40

dictatorship,

11:41

the

11:41

opening

11:42

of

11:42

Brazil

11:43

to

11:43

the

11:43

international

11:44

market,

11:45

and

11:45

then

11:45

Fernando

11:47

Tohi's

11:48

being

11:48

part

11:48

of

11:48

this

11:48

video

11:49

clip

11:49

and

11:50

the

11:51

situation

11:51

that

11:51

things

11:52

are

11:52

happening

11:52

right

11:53

now.

11:53

As

11:54

uneducated

11:55

Europeans.

11:56

We

11:56

need

11:56

to

11:56

remind

11:56

ourselves,

11:57

Brazil

11:57

is

11:57

a

11:58

fucking

11:58

massive

11:58

country.

11:59

It

11:59

absolutely

12:00

makes

12:00

sense

12:00

that

12:00

you

12:01

would

12:01

have

12:01

had

12:01

your

12:02

own

12:02

version.

12:03

What

12:03

me

12:04

and

12:04

they

12:04

would

12:04

remember

12:05

is

12:05

MTV

12:06

Europe,

12:06

Europe

12:07

at

12:07

largest

12:07

versions

12:08

of

12:08

MTV

12:09

US.

12:10

So,

12:10

of

12:10

course,

12:11

it

12:11

makes

12:11

sense

12:11

that

12:11

Brazil,

12:12

which

12:12

is

12:12

bigger

12:13

than

12:13

Europe

12:13

in

12:14

general.

12:14

You

12:15

have

12:15

your

12:15

own

12:15

thing.

12:16

Yeah,

12:16

my

12:16

state

12:17

is

12:17

bigger

12:17

than

12:18

Scotland.

12:18

Also,

12:19

I

12:20

just

12:20

checked

12:20

Brazil,

12:21

5th

12:21

country,

12:21

5th

12:22

biggest

12:22

country

12:22

in

12:23

the

12:23

world

12:23

for

12:23

landmass.

12:24

So

12:24

we

12:24

have

12:24

Russia,

12:25

Canada,

12:26

China,

12:27

the

12:27

US

12:27

and

12:28

then

12:28

Brazil.

12:29

Really?

12:29

I

12:30

thought

12:30

Brazil

12:30

was

12:30

bigger

12:30

than

12:31

at

12:31

least

12:31

3

12:32

of

12:32

those.

12:32

Well,

12:33

I

12:33

wish.

12:34

You

12:36

definitely

12:36

have

12:36

the

12:36

best

12:36

parties,

12:37

though,

12:37

from

12:37

why

12:37

I

12:37

understand

12:37

so,

12:38

you

12:38

know.

12:38

Hell

12:38

yeah,

12:39

we

12:39

have

12:39

amazing

12:39

parties.

12:40

You

12:40

can

12:40

go

12:40

to

12:41

Brazil,

12:41

go

12:41

to

12:41

a

12:41

party.

12:42

Actually,

12:42

if

12:42

you

12:42

go

12:42

to

12:42

Brazil,

12:43

it's

12:43

impossible

12:43

to

12:43

avoid

12:44

a

12:44

party

12:44

because

12:44

they

12:44

did.

12:45

On

12:46

your

12:46

way

12:46

to

12:46

work.

12:47

Oh

12:47

no,

12:47

I've

12:47

just

12:47

fallen

12:48

at

12:48

the

12:48

barrio.

12:48

It

12:49

can

12:49

happen.

12:50

There's

12:50

actually

12:50

a

12:51

song

12:51

about

12:51

that.

12:51

All

12:52

right.

12:53

Must

12:54

be

12:54

true

12:54

then.

12:55

Also,

12:56

not

12:57

surprised

12:57

that

12:57

your

12:57

state

12:57

is

12:57

bigger

12:58

than

12:58

schools.

12:58

Scotland

12:59

is

12:59

not

12:59

a

12:59

very

12:59

big

12:59

country.

13:00

Balon

13:01

muscle

13:01

population,

13:02

so...

13:03

A

13:03

lot

13:04

of

13:04

people

13:04

in

13:04

the

13:04

UK

13:04

compare

13:05

things

13:05

to

13:06

whales,

13:06

like

13:06

not

13:06

the

13:07

animal

13:07

whales,

13:08

like

13:08

the

13:08

country

13:08

whales.

13:09

I

13:09

was

13:09

like,

13:09

oh,

13:09

this

13:09

is

13:09

bigger

13:10

than

13:10

whales.

13:10

And

13:11

I

13:11

don't

13:12

know

13:12

how

13:12

many

13:12

times

13:13

in

13:13

my

13:13

life.

13:14

Someone

13:15

told

13:15

me

13:15

that

13:15

before

13:16

I

13:16

was

13:16

aware

13:16

of

13:17

what

13:17

it

13:17

meant,

13:17

didn't

13:18

I

13:18

think

13:18

like,

13:18

yeah,

13:19

that's

13:19

definitely

13:19

bigger

13:20

than

13:20

a

13:20

whale,

13:20

like

13:21

animal

13:21

whale.

13:22

But

13:23

it's

13:24

probably

13:24

definitely

13:24

bigger

13:25

than

13:25

whales

13:25

itself.

13:26

Hello

13:26

to

13:27

all

13:27

our

13:27

whale

13:27

friends.

13:28

I

13:28

know.

13:29

I

13:29

wonder

13:29

how

13:29

much

13:30

of

13:30

life

13:30

I

13:30

miss

13:30

by

13:31

not

13:31

understanding

13:31

what's

13:32

going

13:32

on

13:32

around

13:32

me.

13:33

Probably

13:33

a

13:33

lot.

13:33

Was

13:34

there

13:35

much

13:35

in

13:35

the

13:35

way

13:35

of

13:35

music

13:35

videos

13:36

in

13:36

Brazil

13:36

before

13:37

MTV

13:37

came

13:38

along

13:38

in

13:38

the

13:38

whole

13:38

military

13:39

dictatorship

13:40

thing?

13:40

There

13:40

were.

13:40

But,

13:41

like,

13:41

they

13:41

were

13:42

not

13:42

as

13:42

high,

13:42

highly

13:43

produced,

13:44

and

13:44

it

13:45

was

13:45

a

13:45

lot

13:45

of

13:45

just

13:45

like,

13:46

um,

13:46

a

13:47

lot

13:47

of

13:47

the

13:47

video

13:47

clips

13:47

are

13:48

more

13:48

just

13:48

like,

13:48

uh,

13:49

presentations,

13:50

like,

13:50

like

13:51

recording

13:51

of

13:51

concerts

13:52

and

13:52

recording

13:52

of

13:53

songs

13:53

specifically.

13:54

There

13:55

was

13:55

not

13:55

so

13:55

much

13:55

of

13:56

like

13:56

an

13:56

effort

13:57

of

13:57

like

13:57

telling

13:57

a

13:58

story.

13:58

One

13:59

of

13:59

my

13:59

favourite

14:00

Brazilian

14:00

video

14:01

clips

14:01

is

14:01

actually

14:01

from

14:02

the

14:02

70s.

14:03

And

14:03

it

14:04

is

14:04

just

14:04

them

14:05

playing

14:05

at

14:06

a

14:06

concert

14:06

playing

14:07

at

14:07

a

14:07

show.

14:07

If

14:08

you

14:08

ever

14:08

want

14:08

to

14:08

do

14:09

a

14:09

video

14:09

about

14:09

that,

14:09

I'm

14:10

gonna

14:10

be

14:11

so

14:11

happy.

14:12

I

14:13

might

14:13

just

14:13

myself,

14:14

even

14:14

though

14:15

I

14:15

can't

14:15

because

14:16

it's

14:17

so

14:17

good.

14:17

It's

14:18

just

14:18

so

14:18

good.

14:19

Yeah.

14:19

Any

14:20

more

14:20

questions?

14:21

One

14:22

more,

14:22

one

14:22

more.

14:23

How

14:23

old

14:23

were

14:24

you

14:24

when

14:24

the

14:24

whole

14:24

military

14:25

dictatorship

14:25

thing

14:26

went

14:26

away

14:26

or

14:26

was

14:27

that

14:27

before?

14:27

I

14:27

actually

14:28

know

14:28

when

14:28

this

14:28

happened.

14:28

So

14:29

it

14:29

ended?

14:30

Officially

14:31

it

14:31

ended

14:31

in

14:31

1985,

14:33

but

14:33

there

14:34

was

14:34

so

14:34

like

14:34

quite

14:34

a

14:35

lot

14:35

of

14:35

things

14:35

still

14:35

being

14:36

felt

14:36

and

14:36

there

14:36

was

14:37

a

14:37

transition

14:38

kind

14:38

of

14:38

period.

14:39

I

14:39

was

14:39

born

14:39

in

14:39

1988,

14:40

which

14:41

is

14:41

actually

14:41

the

14:42

year

14:42

of

14:42

the

14:42

new

14:43

Constitution.

14:43

Yay,

14:44

after.

14:45

Yeah,

14:46

so

14:46

that

14:46

is

14:46

pretty

14:46

cool.

14:47

So

14:47

I

14:47

was

14:47

not

14:47

born.

14:48

Hashtag.

14:49

I

14:49

know.

14:49

Yeah,

14:49

I

14:50

was

14:50

like,

14:50

yeah,

14:50

new

14:51

constitution

14:51

baby.

14:52

So

14:53

I

14:54

was

14:54

not

14:54

there

14:54

for

14:55

the

14:55

dictatorship,

14:56

but

14:56

it

14:57

went

14:57

from

14:58

1964

14:59

to

15:00

85.

15:01

So

15:01

my

15:02

mom

15:02

lived

15:02

through

15:03

it.

15:03

My

15:03

brother

15:03

lived

15:04

through

15:04

it.

15:04

Like,

15:05

yeah,

15:05

a

15:05

whole

15:05

bunch

15:05

of

15:05

people

15:05

lived

15:06

through

15:06

it.

15:07

If

15:07

you

15:07

want

15:08

to

15:08

have

15:08

an

15:08

interesting

15:09

point

15:09

of

15:09

view

15:10

of

15:10

how

15:10

a

15:11

dictatorship,

15:12

military

15:12

dictatorship

15:13

would

15:13

work

15:13

in

15:13

a

15:14

country

15:14

like

15:14

Brazil.

15:15

I

15:15

do

15:15

recommend

15:16

watching

15:16

the

15:16

film

15:18

that

15:18

got

15:18

the

15:18

Oscar

15:18

there,

15:19

that

15:19

I'm

15:19

still

15:19

here,

15:19

uh,

15:20

away

15:21

in

15:21

the

15:21

Soakie,

15:22

because

15:22

it

15:22

shows

15:23

a

15:24

lot

15:24

about

15:24

how

15:25

it

15:26

played

15:26

out

15:27

because

15:27

I've

15:28

see

15:28

videos

15:29

and

15:29

I

15:29

watch

15:29

things

15:30

about

15:30

dictatorship

15:31

in

15:31

other

15:31

countries

15:32

and

15:32

the

15:33

Brazilian

15:34

twist

15:34

to

15:34

it

15:34

is

15:35

very

15:36

interesting.

15:36

We

15:37

do

15:37

the

15:37

best

15:37

parties

15:38

and

15:38

the

15:39

dictatorship

15:40

didn't

15:40

stop

15:40

us.

15:42

It's

15:43

really

15:43

interesting

15:44

in

15:45

a

15:45

bad

15:45

way,

15:45

but

15:45

seeing

15:45

how

15:46

different

15:46

countries

15:46

adapt

15:47

to

15:47

things

15:47

like

15:47

that.

15:48

It's

15:48

like

15:48

I

15:48

always

15:48

think

15:48

Brazil

15:49

is

15:49

the

15:49

film

15:50

Brazil

15:50

is

15:50

the

15:50

best

15:51

example

15:51

of

15:51

what

15:51

it

15:51

would

15:51

look

15:51

like

15:52

in

15:52

the

15:52

UK,

15:52

just

15:53

boring

15:53

and

15:53

horrible,

15:54

but

15:54

Brazil

15:55

would

15:55

have

15:55

its

15:55

own

15:55

version.

15:56

Germany

15:56

had

15:56

its

15:56

own

15:56

version,

15:57

blah,

15:57

blah,

15:57

blah,

15:57

blah.

15:57

Yeah,

15:57

no,

15:58

and

15:58

just

15:58

like

15:58

a

15:58

little

15:58

at

15:58

then,

15:59

and

15:59

there

15:59

was

15:59

like

15:59

this

15:59

explosion

16:00

of

16:00

culture

16:01

that

16:01

happened

16:01

with

16:02

like

16:02

people

16:02

trying

16:03

to

16:03

overcome

16:03

censorship

16:04

and

16:04

like

16:05

the

16:05

way

16:05

they

16:05

would

16:06

write

16:06

the

16:06

lyrics

16:07

would

16:07

be

16:07

in

16:08

a

16:08

way

16:08

that

16:08

like

16:08

if

16:08

you

16:09

read

16:09

the

16:09

lyrics,

16:10

it

16:10

doesn't,

16:11

it

16:11

doesn't

16:11

sound

16:12

bad

16:12

or

16:12

anything

16:12

like

16:13

that.

16:13

But

16:13

when

16:13

you're

16:14

singing

16:14

the

16:14

way

16:14

you

16:15

put

16:15

the

16:15

accent

16:15

on

16:16

the

16:16

words

16:16

and

16:16

the

16:17

way

16:17

that

16:17

the

16:17

words

16:17

form

16:18

together.

16:19

It's

16:20

really

16:20

powerful.

16:20

So

16:21

we

16:21

have

16:21

a

16:22

very

16:22

strong

16:22

history

16:23

of

16:23

innuendo

16:24

in

16:24

our

16:25

music,

16:25

which

16:26

continues

16:26

to

16:27

this

16:27

day,

16:27

but

16:27

nowadays

16:28

for

16:29

more

16:29

fun

16:29

reasons

16:30

than

16:30

not

16:31

get

16:31

arrested

16:31

reasons.

16:32

Just

16:33

to

16:33

point

16:34

out,

16:34

they,

16:35

yes,

16:36

it

16:36

would

16:36

be

16:36

bleak

16:38

and

16:38

boring.

16:39

It

16:39

would

16:39

be

16:39

like

16:39

the

16:39

movie

16:39

Brazil,

16:40

bleak

16:41

and

16:41

boring,

16:42

and

16:42

directed

16:43

by

16:43

a

16:43

turf.

16:44

So...

16:44

I

16:44

mean,

16:45

we're

16:45

probably

16:45

potentially

16:46

5

16:46

years

16:47

away

16:47

for

16:47

a

16:48

couple

16:48

years.

16:48

Let's

16:48

not

16:49

think

16:49

about

16:49

that.

16:49

I

16:50

think

16:50

I

16:50

had

16:50

transitions

16:50

as

16:51

well

16:51

to

16:51

Nelly.

16:51

How?

16:52

On

16:54

the

16:54

spot.

16:54

Because

16:55

I

16:55

said

16:55

it

16:55

was

16:55

a

16:55

transition,

16:56

therefore.

16:57

So

16:58

this

16:58

is,

16:58

this

16:59

sounds

16:59

true.

16:59

MTV's

17:01

brown

17:01

European

17:02

top

17:02

20.

17:03

Check

17:04

out

17:04

MTV's

17:05

exclusive

17:06

European

17:06

charts

17:07

and

17:07

keep

17:07

right

17:08

up

17:08

to

17:08

date

17:08

with

17:08

what's

17:09

happening

17:09

all

17:09

over

17:10

the

17:10

continent.

17:10

Saturdays

17:12

at

17:12

1900

17:13

and

17:14

Sundays

17:14

at

17:14

1130

17:15

MTV's

17:17

brown

17:17

European

17:17

top

17:18

20,

17:18

the

17:19

one

17:19

and

17:19

only

17:19

European

17:20

chart

17:20

show.

17:21

Enter

17:22

in

17:22

Bulgaria,

17:23

as

17:23

far

17:23

as

17:23

I'm

17:23

aware,

17:24

was

17:24

the

17:24

1st

17:25

purpose

17:25

made,

17:26

music

17:27

channel

17:27

in,

17:28

at

17:28

least

17:28

in

17:28

Bulgaria,

17:29

that

17:29

was

17:29

entirely

17:30

about

17:30

music,

17:32

but

17:32

it

17:32

was

17:32

mostly

17:33

largely

17:33

pre,

17:34

the

17:35

reality

17:35

shows

17:36

time.

17:36

It's

17:37

not

17:37

that

17:37

MTV

17:37

had

17:37

the

17:38

massive

17:38

following

17:38

as

17:39

the

17:39

way

17:40

in

17:40

Brazil,

17:41

but

17:41

it

17:41

hasn't,

17:42

it

17:42

has

17:42

a

17:42

massive

17:42

wave

17:43

of

17:44

people

17:44

suddenly

17:45

being

17:45

like,

17:45

oh,

17:46

why

17:46

do

17:46

we

17:46

not

17:47

just

17:47

do

17:47

that

17:47

but

17:48

for

17:48

Bulgaria?

17:49

So

17:49

MTV,

17:50

the

17:50

MTV

17:51

that

17:51

we

17:51

used

17:51

is

17:52

that

17:52

we

17:52

had

17:52

in

17:52

Bulgaria

17:53

was

17:53

MTV

17:53

Europe.

17:54

I

17:54

think

17:54

now

17:54

it's

17:55

nowadays

17:55

called

17:56

MTV

17:56

International.

17:57

It's

17:57

the

17:57

same

17:57

one

17:58

that

17:58

was

17:58

broadcast

17:59

in

17:59

the

17:59

UK,

18:00

which

18:00

meant

18:00

that

18:01

it

18:01

was

18:01

mostly

18:02

pandering

18:02

around

18:03

the

18:03

UK

18:03

earlier.

18:04

They

18:04

said

18:05

that

18:05

you

18:05

remember

18:06

it

18:06

not

18:06

being

18:06

America

18:07

centric.

18:08

That's

18:08

because

18:08

it

18:08

wasn't,

18:09

it

18:09

was

18:09

UK

18:09

centric.

18:10

Sorry.

18:10

Which

18:11

you

18:11

wouldn't

18:11

necessarily.

18:12

No,

18:12

no,

18:12

it's

18:12

fine.

18:13

You

18:13

wouldn't

18:13

necessarily

18:13

understand

18:14

it's

18:14

unless

18:14

you're

18:15

outside

18:15

of

18:15

this.

18:15

You

18:16

know,

18:16

there

18:16

was

18:16

a

18:16

lot

18:16

of

18:16

British

18:17

broadcasters,

18:18

VJs

18:19

and

18:19

shows,

18:20

which

18:20

is

18:20

perfectly

18:20

fine,

18:21

but

18:21

then

18:21

there

18:21

was

18:21

no

18:22

exposure

18:22

to

18:22

Bulgarian

18:23

music

18:23

videos.

18:24

So

18:24

it

18:24

was

18:25

broken

18:25

or,

18:26

you

18:26

know,

18:26

Eastern

18:27

European

18:27

music

18:27

videos,

18:28

at

18:28

least

18:28

in

18:28

the

18:29

beginning.

18:29

So

18:29

a

18:29

lot

18:30

of

18:30

people

18:30

started

18:30

being

18:30

like,

18:31

hey,

18:31

why

18:31

did

18:31

we

18:31

just

18:31

do

18:32

that?

18:33

which

18:33

gave

18:33

birth

18:34

to

18:34

a

18:34

lot

18:34

of

18:35

purpose

18:35

music

18:35

channels.

18:38

It's

18:38

what,

18:38

You

18:39

know,

18:39

there

18:39

was

18:39

one

18:40

of

18:40

the

18:40

biggest

18:40

ones.

18:41

It

18:41

was

18:41

called

18:42

MMTV,

18:43

which

18:43

stands

18:44

for

18:44

music

18:44

mania,

18:45

I

18:45

think.

18:45

And

18:46

that

18:46

was

18:46

entirely

18:46

Bulgarian,

18:47

it

18:47

was

18:47

similar

18:48

in

18:48

this

18:48

premises.

18:49

It

18:49

was

18:49

showing

18:50

not

18:50

only

18:50

Bulgarian

18:51

music

18:51

videos.

18:52

It

18:52

was

18:52

showing

18:52

worldwide

18:53

music

18:54

videos,

18:54

but

18:55

there

18:55

was

18:55

a

18:55

lot

18:55

of

18:55

programmes

18:56

and

18:56

shows,

18:57

not

18:58

only

18:58

music

18:58

but

18:58

technology.

18:59

It

18:59

became

19:00

kind

19:00

of

19:00

a

19:00

type

19:01

of

19:01

culture,

19:01

juggernaut,

19:02

uh,

19:03

it,

19:03

it

19:04

had

19:04

its

19:04

own,

19:05

it

19:05

was

19:06

specifically

19:06

for

19:06

Bulgarian

19:07

videos,

19:07

which

19:07

led

19:08

to

19:08

the

19:09

creation

19:09

of

19:09

other,

19:10

like,

19:10

specific

19:10

Bulgaria

19:11

only,

19:12

like

19:12

Bulgaria,

19:12

showing

19:13

only

19:13

Bulgarian

19:13

music.

19:14

Either,

19:15

you

19:15

know,

19:15

pop

19:15

music

19:16

or

19:16

rock

19:16

music,

19:17

there

19:17

was

19:17

specific

19:17

music,

19:18

uh,

19:18

channels

19:19

to

19:19

showing

19:19

on

19:20

pop

19:20

folk,

19:20

which

19:21

is

19:21

a

19:21

genre

19:21

that

19:21

is

19:22

incredible,

19:22

picking

19:22

Bulgaria.

19:23

It's

19:24

very

19:24

difficult

19:24

to

19:24

explain,

19:25

but

19:25

it's

19:26

kind

19:26

of,

19:26

you

19:26

have

19:27

pop

19:27

folk

19:27

and

19:27

you

19:27

have

19:28

all

19:28

the

19:28

other

19:28

music,

19:28

pop

19:29

folk

19:29

is

19:29

kind

19:29

of

19:29

ethno

19:30

flavour

19:31

spicy

19:31

music,

19:32

which

19:32

I

19:32

don't

19:32

necessarily

19:33

like.

19:33

It's

19:34

a

19:34

bit

19:34

of

19:34

like

19:35

marmite.

19:35

You

19:35

either

19:36

like

19:36

it

19:36

or

19:36

not.

19:36

Good.

19:37

Um,

19:38

I

19:38

have

19:38

learned

19:39

to

19:39

accept

19:39

that

19:40

it's,

19:40

it's

19:41

fine.

19:41

It's

19:42

just

19:42

music.

19:42

Me

19:43

not

19:43

liking

19:43

it

19:43

doesn't

19:44

matter

19:44

still

19:44

exist.

19:45

I

19:45

think

19:45

I

19:45

remember

19:46

you

19:46

talking

19:46

about

19:46

this

19:46

during

19:46

the

19:47

domain

19:47

Monchell

19:47

episodes.

19:48

Nowadays,

19:49

it's

19:49

a

19:49

lot

19:49

more

19:49

mainstream

19:50

in

19:50

terms

19:50

of

19:51

the

19:51

music

19:51

and

19:51

even

19:52

sounds,

19:53

much

19:53

more

19:54

pop

19:54

and,

19:55

much

19:55

less

19:55

ethnic

19:57

or

19:58

ethnic.

19:58

I

19:58

don't

19:58

know

19:58

how

19:59

to

19:59

explain.

19:59

It's

19:59

not,

20:00

to

20:00

be

20:01

weird.

20:01

Anyways,

20:01

the

20:02

point

20:02

is

20:02

in

20:02

the

20:02

90s.

20:03

There

20:03

was

20:03

some,

20:04

like

20:04

the

20:04

biggest

20:05

names

20:05

were

20:05

very

20:06

neocentric

20:07

with

20:07

a

20:08

lot

20:08

of

20:08

songs

20:08

that

20:08

were

20:09

very,

20:09

very

20:09

misogynistic,

20:11

but

20:11

that

20:11

was

20:11

reflective

20:12

to

20:12

the,

20:13

almost

20:13

to

20:13

the

20:13

culture

20:14

in

20:14

Bulgaria.

20:15

My

20:15

hung

20:16

up

20:16

with

20:16

that

20:16

is

20:17

that

20:17

even

20:18

when

20:18

it

20:18

came

20:18

to

20:18

female

20:19

singers,

20:20

initially

20:21

their

20:21

response

20:22

was

20:22

like,

20:23

yeah,

20:23

we

20:23

are

20:23

this,

20:24

like,

20:24

we

20:25

do

20:25

like

20:25

being

20:25

objectified,

20:26

and

20:27

that

20:27

never

20:27

sat

20:27

well

20:27

with

20:28

me,

20:28

and

20:28

I

20:28

didn't

20:28

really

20:28

care

20:29

about

20:29

it.

20:29

But

20:29

it's,

20:30

I've

20:30

learned

20:31

to,

20:32

like

20:32

it

20:32

or

20:33

not.

20:33

Anyway,

20:33

going

20:33

on

20:34

a

20:34

tangent.

20:34

It

20:34

doesn't

20:35

matter.

20:35

I'm

20:35

happy

20:35

to

20:35

send

20:36

you

20:36

some

20:36

songs

20:36

that

20:36

are

20:37

like

20:37

very

20:37

divisive

20:38

and

20:38

also

20:38

some

20:39

little

20:39

very,

20:39

like,

20:40

much

20:40

better.

20:40

Still,

20:41

I'm

20:41

curious.

20:41

Oh,

20:42

happy

20:42

to.

20:43

Uh,

20:43

point

20:44

is

20:44

that

20:44

if

20:45

it

20:45

wasn't

20:45

for

20:45

MTV,

20:46

I

20:46

would

20:46

question

20:46

whether

20:47

they

20:47

would

20:47

have

20:47

been

20:47

the

20:48

appetite

20:49

and

20:49

interest

20:49

for

20:49

Bulgaria,

20:50

to

20:50

this

20:51

to

20:51

happen

20:51

in

20:51

Bulgaria.

20:52

So

20:52

it

20:52

was

20:52

never

20:53

the

20:53

case

20:53

of

20:53

MTV

20:54

itself,

20:55

being

20:55

popular

20:55

in

20:56

Bulgaria,

20:56

but

20:56

more

20:56

just

20:57

the

20:57

cultural

20:57

effecting

20:58

had,

20:58

had

20:59

in

20:59

people

20:59

suddenly

21:00

spending

21:00

more

21:00

money

21:00

for

21:01

music

21:01

videos,

21:02

like,

21:02

up

21:03

until

21:03

the

21:03

early

21:03

90s,

21:04

Bogan

21:04

music

21:05

videos

21:05

were

21:05

akin

21:06

to

21:06

70s

21:07

music

21:07

videos

21:07

of

21:08

a

21:09

band

21:09

playing

21:10

on

21:10

a

21:10

single

21:10

stage

21:11

with

21:11

like

21:11

2

21:12

cameras

21:12

maximum.

21:12

Suddenly

21:13

there

21:13

was

21:13

more

21:13

money.

21:14

Suddenly

21:14

there

21:14

was

21:14

more

21:14

passion

21:15

put

21:16

into

21:16

it.

21:16

And

21:16

that

21:17

was

21:17

great.

21:17

In

21:17

fact,

21:18

I

21:18

remember

21:18

the

21:18

very

21:18

1st

21:19

time

21:19

when

21:19

there

21:19

was

21:19

a

21:19

Bulgarian

21:20

music

21:20

video

21:20

plate

21:21

in,

21:21

in,

21:22

uh,

21:22

name

21:22

TV,

21:23

like

21:23

MTV

21:23

Europe,

21:24

some

21:24

techno

21:24

pop

21:25

song,

21:26

like,

21:26

I

21:26

think

21:26

the

21:27

band

21:27

was

21:27

called

21:27

Deep

21:28

Zone

21:28

project,

21:29

maybe

21:29

I'm

21:29

not

21:30

100%

21:30

sure,

21:31

but

21:31

there

21:31

was

21:31

a

21:31

whole

21:31

thing

21:31

of

21:32

like,

21:32

oh,

21:32

we're

21:32

finally

21:32

on

21:33

MTV

21:33

and

21:34

that's

21:34

it,

21:34

and

21:34

they

21:34

just

21:35

died.

21:35

It

21:35

was

21:35

one

21:36

song.

21:36

It

21:37

wasn't

21:37

even

21:37

a

21:37

good

21:37

physic

21:38

video,

21:38

but

21:38

anyway.

21:38

I

21:39

still

21:39

liked

21:39

it

21:40

and

21:40

still

21:40

watched

21:40

it

21:40

because

21:41

it

21:41

had

21:41

some,

21:42

uh,

21:42

things

21:43

that

21:43

they

21:43

liked.

21:43

They

21:44

were

21:44

not

21:44

necessarily

21:44

popular

21:45

in

21:45

Bulgaria

21:45

or

21:45

not

21:46

Shaw

21:46

in

21:46

Bulgaria.

21:47

The

21:47

one

21:47

thing

21:47

that

21:48

it's

21:48

still

21:48

to

21:49

this

21:49

day,

21:49

probably

21:50

very

21:50

important

21:51

in

21:51

terms

21:52

of

21:52

how

21:52

it

21:52

turned

21:52

out

21:53

to

21:53

life.

21:53

Put

21:53

an

21:54

astrix

21:54

to

21:54

this

21:54

is

21:55

jackass.

21:56

I

21:56

watched

21:57

it

21:57

religiously.

21:58

I

21:58

discovered

21:59

it

21:59

once,

22:00

one

22:01

day

22:01

I

22:01

was

22:01

having

22:01

a

22:02

really

22:02

bad

22:02

flu.

22:03

I

22:03

was

22:03

out

22:03

of

22:03

school

22:04

for

22:04

like

22:04

a

22:04

week

22:05

and

22:05

I'll

22:05

just

22:06

let

22:06

my

22:06

parents

22:06

were

22:06

like,

22:07

it's

22:07

fine,

22:07

just

22:07

watch

22:08

TV.

22:08

You

22:08

be

22:08

fine.

22:09

And

22:10

I

22:10

just

22:10

won

22:10

the

22:11

Istanbul

22:11

to

22:11

cross

22:11

the

22:12

late

22:12

night

22:12

shows

22:12

of

22:13

MTV

22:13

reruns.

22:14

Instantly

22:14

it

22:15

was

22:15

like,

22:15

wow,

22:16

that's

22:16

dumb.

22:17

I'm

22:17

11.

22:18

I

22:18

like

22:18

this.

22:19

So

22:19

I

22:20

spent

22:20

a

22:20

lot

22:20

of

22:20

time

22:21

watching

22:21

jackass.

22:22

And

22:22

still

22:22

to

22:22

this

22:22

day,

22:23

I

22:23

think

22:23

that

22:23

there

22:24

is

22:24

some

22:24

really

22:24

dumb

22:25

stuff

22:25

and

22:25

very,

22:26

very,

22:26

very,

22:27

very

22:27

bad

22:28

things

22:28

that

22:29

have

22:29

not

22:29

aged

22:30

well.

22:30

And

22:31

there's

22:31

some

22:31

absolutely

22:32

hilarious

22:32

things

22:32

that

22:32

still

22:33

to

22:33

this

22:33

day

22:33

are

22:33

great.

22:34

And

22:34

I

22:35

will

22:36

go

22:36

and

22:36

watch

22:36

Jackass

22:37

5,

22:37

which

22:37

is

22:38

the

22:38

thing

22:38

it's

22:39

supposed

22:39

to

22:39

come

22:39

out

22:39

this

22:39

year.

22:40

I

22:40

don't

22:40

know

22:40

how

22:40

they

22:41

still

22:41

make,

22:42

how

22:42

they

22:42

have

22:42

any

22:42

balls

22:43

left

22:43

to

22:43

make

22:43

anything.

22:44

I

22:44

just

22:44

want

22:45

to

22:45

throw

22:45

out

22:45

the

22:46

jackass

22:46

3D

22:46

is

22:47

the

22:47

best

22:47

use

22:47

of

22:48

3D

22:48

film

22:48

ever.

22:49

Yeah.

22:49

Legitimately,

22:51

because

22:51

it

22:51

was

22:51

hilarious

22:52

in

22:53

the

22:53

cinema,

22:53

sweetie.

22:54

Yeah,

22:54

no,

22:54

absolutely.

22:55

Like

22:55

it

22:55

was

22:56

great.

22:56

I

22:56

haven't

22:57

seen

22:57

it.

22:57

I

22:58

want

22:58

to

22:58

watch

22:58

it

22:58

now.

22:58

haven't

22:59

seen

22:59

it.

22:59

You

23:00

should

23:00

watch

23:00

in

23:00

3D.

23:00

There's

23:01

opens...

23:05

It

23:05

continues.

23:06

It

23:06

opens

23:06

very

23:06

well.

23:07

It

23:09

shows

23:09

off

23:09

the

23:09

3D

23:10

very

23:10

well.

23:10

I

23:11

want

23:11

to

23:11

know

23:11

if

23:12

Nelly

23:12

being

23:12

11.

23:13

Did

23:13

you

23:14

did

23:14

you

23:14

get

23:14

any

23:15

ideas?

23:15

Did

23:16

you

23:16

try

23:16

anything

23:16

else?

23:17

I

23:18

got

23:18

into

23:18

skateboarding.

23:19

That

23:19

awoke

23:20

my

23:20

passion

23:21

for

23:21

this

23:21

and

23:22

for

23:22

years.

23:23

So

23:23

I

23:23

try

23:23

to

23:24

learn

23:24

skateboarding.

23:25

I

23:25

tried

23:25

to,

23:25

like

23:25

I

23:25

had

23:25

a

23:26

skateboard

23:26

as

23:26

a

23:26

teen.

23:27

Uh,

23:28

I

23:28

was

23:28

trying

23:28

to

23:28

be

23:29

good

23:30

at

23:30

it.

23:31

I

23:31

wasn't.

23:32

It

23:32

was

23:32

a

23:33

early

23:33

naughty,

23:33

so

23:33

it

23:34

was

23:34

still

23:34

a

23:34

lot

23:34

of

23:34

like

23:34

mostly

23:35

boys,

23:36

at

23:36

least

23:36

in

23:37

my

23:37

area.

23:37

If

23:38

I

23:38

try

23:38

to

23:38

approach

23:39

someone,

23:39

they

23:39

would

23:39

just

23:40

kind

23:40

of

23:40

laugh

23:40

me

23:40

off.

23:40

It

23:41

wasn't

23:41

great.

23:42

I'm

23:42

sure

23:42

that

23:42

that

23:42

was

23:42

not

23:43

the

23:43

experience

23:43

everywhere.

23:44

Maybe

23:44

bigger

23:45

cities

23:45

like

23:45

Sofia

23:46

might

23:46

have

23:46

been

23:46

different,

23:47

but

23:47

my

23:47

hometown,

23:48

my

23:48

area,

23:49

that's

23:49

kind

23:49

of

23:49

how

23:49

it

23:50

was.

23:50

I

23:50

had

23:50

a

23:51

very

23:51

unfortunate

23:51

fall.

23:52

I

23:52

didn't

23:53

break

23:53

anything,

23:53

but

23:53

I

23:53

had

23:54

a

23:54

very

23:54

big

23:54

bruise.

23:55

Uh,

23:55

but

23:56

this

23:56

point

23:56

was

23:57

16-ish.

23:58

So

23:58

my

23:58

mom

23:59

just

24:00

politely

24:00

asked

24:00

me

24:00

to

24:00

stop

24:01

doing

24:01

that

24:01

because

24:02

it

24:02

was

24:02

in

24:02

the

24:03

midst

24:03

of

24:03

doing

24:04

arts

24:04

and

24:04

I

24:05

was

24:05

working

24:05

on

24:05

my

24:05

portfolio,

24:06

so

24:06

she

24:06

very

24:06

politely

24:07

asked

24:07

me

24:07

to

24:07

stop

24:07

doing

24:08

this,

24:08

so

24:08

don't

24:09

break

24:09

my

24:09

right

24:09

arm.

24:10

I

24:10

drove

24:10

us.

24:11

And

24:11

I

24:12

did,

24:12

and

24:12

I

24:12

never

24:12

went

24:12

back

24:12

to

24:13

it.

24:13

And

24:13

occasionally,

24:14

you

24:14

know,

24:15

a

24:15

couple

24:15

of

24:15

years

24:16

ago

24:16

during

24:16

the

24:16

summer

24:17

Olympics,

24:18

we

24:18

were

24:18

in

24:19

Japan

24:19

and

24:19

watching

24:19

because

24:20

there

24:21

was

24:21

a

24:21

lot

24:21

of

24:21

Japanese

24:21

women,

24:23

girls,

24:23

rather,

24:24

part

24:24

of

24:24

the

24:24

Olympics,

24:25

and

24:25

seeing

24:25

those

24:25

like

24:25

14,

24:26

16

24:26

year

24:27

old

24:27

girls

24:27

doing

24:27

some

24:27

amazing

24:28

tricks,

24:28

and

24:28

I

24:29

was

24:29

just

24:29

like,

24:29

ride

24:30

on.

24:30

That's

24:31

great.

24:31

That's

24:31

amazing.

24:32

That's

24:33

absolutely

24:33

fantastic.

24:34

Could

24:34

have

24:34

been

24:34

you.

24:34

No,

24:35

they

24:35

would

24:35

have

24:35

never

24:35

been

24:35

mean,

24:36

but

24:36

I

24:36

was

24:36

so

24:36

happy

24:37

for

24:37

them

24:37

because

24:38

they

24:38

had

24:39

the

24:39

opportunity

24:40

and

24:40

someone

24:41

believed

24:41

in

24:41

them

24:41

and

24:42

I

24:42

think

24:42

it

24:42

was

24:42

like

24:43

a

24:43

15

24:43

or

24:43

16

24:44

year

24:44

old

24:44

girl

24:44

who

24:44

won

24:45

golden

24:45

like

24:46

golden

24:46

medal

24:47

and

24:47

that's

24:47

like,

24:48

that's

24:48

amazing.

24:48

And

24:49

it's,

24:50

it's,

24:50

look,

24:51

if

24:51

that's

24:51

someone

24:52

else's

24:52

11

24:52

year

24:53

old

24:53

was

24:53

an

24:53

introduction

24:54

to

24:54

skateboarding

24:55

by

24:55

a

24:55

jackass

24:56

and

24:56

she

24:57

ended

24:57

up

24:57

winning

24:57

award

24:58

somewhere.

24:59

That's

24:59

the

24:59

way

24:59

to

25:00

go

25:00

Imagine

25:01

saying

25:01

in

25:01

your

25:01

gold

25:02

medal,

25:03

accepting

25:03

speech,

25:03

though.

25:04

I'm

25:05

only

25:05

here

25:05

because

25:05

of

25:05

jackass.

25:06

I

25:07

mean,

25:07

imagine

25:08

the

25:08

16

25:08

year

25:08

olds

25:08

nowadays

25:09

might

25:09

have,

25:10

we

25:10

were

25:10

a

25:10

bit

25:10

older

25:11

than

25:11

them.

25:11

So

25:11

you

25:12

remember

25:12

jackass

25:13

when

25:13

it

25:13

was

25:13

around.

25:13

But

25:14

yeah,

25:15

it's,

25:15

that's,

25:16

uh,

25:16

the

25:16

jackass

25:17

ended

25:17

up

25:17

being,

25:18

like,

25:18

I

25:18

still,

25:18

still,

25:20

very

25:20

fond

25:20

memories

25:21

and

25:21

feelings

25:21

towards

25:21

it.

25:22

Not

25:22

all

25:22

of

25:22

it.

25:22

Some

25:23

of

25:23

it

25:23

is

25:23

absolutely

25:23

horrendous.

25:24

They

25:24

did

25:25

do

25:25

a

25:25

lot

25:25

of

25:25

unfortunate

25:26

ages

25:26

jokes.

25:27

Kind

25:28

of

25:28

I

25:29

won't

25:29

say

25:29

queer

25:29

phobic,

25:30

but

25:30

I

25:30

don't

25:30

think

25:30

it

25:30

was

25:31

on

25:31

purpose.

25:31

I

25:31

think

25:31

it

25:32

was

25:32

just

25:32

jokes

25:32

that

25:33

could

25:33

last

25:33

the

25:34

time.

25:34

I've

25:34

heard

25:35

I

25:35

listened

25:35

to

25:35

a

25:35

lot

25:35

of

25:35

interviews

25:36

with

25:36

a

25:36

lot

25:36

of

25:37

them

25:37

nowadays

25:37

and

25:37

they

25:38

seem

25:38

most

25:38

of

25:39

them

25:39

seem

25:40

like

25:40

very

25:40

normal

25:41

human

25:41

beings.

25:42

Not

25:42

all

25:43

of

25:43

them,

25:43

some

25:43

of

25:43

them

25:43

are

25:44

horrible

25:44

human

25:44

beings,

25:44

and

25:45

we

25:45

never

25:45

want

25:45

to

25:46

listen

25:46

to

25:46

them.

25:46

I'm

25:46

surprised

25:47

none

25:47

of

25:47

them

25:47

died.

25:48

One

25:48

of

25:48

them

25:48

did.

25:49

Ryan

25:49

Dunn,

25:50

I

25:50

think

25:50

he

25:50

passed

25:50

away.

25:51

I

25:51

think

25:51

he

25:52

might

25:52

have

25:52

been

25:52

in

25:52

the

25:52

car

25:52

crush.

25:53

I'm

25:53

not

25:53

sure.

25:53

I

25:54

not

25:54

going

25:54

to

25:54

say.

25:54

It

25:54

wasn't

25:54

during

25:54

a

25:55

jackass,

25:55

though.

25:55

I'm

25:56

like,

25:56

how

25:56

have

25:56

none

25:57

of

25:57

them

25:57

died

25:57

yet?

25:58

I

25:59

would

25:59

imagine

25:59

the

25:59

little

26:00

things

26:00

were

26:00

a

26:00

lot

26:00

more,

26:01

not

26:01

scripted,

26:02

but

26:02

supervised

26:03

a

26:03

lot

26:03

more

26:03

than,

26:04

do

26:04

you

26:04

know

26:04

what?

26:04

I

26:05

think

26:05

I've

26:05

said

26:05

this

26:05

before,

26:06

but

26:06

there

26:06

is

26:06

a

26:06

Bulgarian

26:07

saying

26:07

the

26:07

drunks

26:08

and

26:08

the

26:08

idiots

26:09

are

26:09

watched

26:10

over

26:10

by

26:10

Godru,

26:11

they

26:11

would

26:11

have

26:11

fucking

26:11

translated

26:12

us.

26:12

And

26:13

that's

26:13

kind

26:13

of,

26:13

like,

26:14

they

26:14

were

26:14

both

26:14

drunk

26:14

and

26:15

idiots,

26:15

and

26:15

there

26:16

was

26:16

also

26:16

drugs

26:16

involved.

26:17

They've

26:17

been

26:17

very

26:17

open

26:18

about

26:18

this.

26:18

Start

26:19

using

26:19

that

26:19

phrase

26:19

in

26:20

English,

26:20

by

26:20

the

26:20

way,

26:20

just.

26:21

It's

26:21

a

26:21

good

26:21

phrase.

26:22

very

26:22

good

26:22

phrase.

26:23

I've

26:23

got

26:23

a

26:23

question.

26:23

Music

26:24

channels

26:25

as

26:25

a

26:25

cultural

26:25

statement

26:26

in

26:26

post-iron

26:27

curtain

26:27

Bulgaria.

26:28

What

26:28

did

26:28

you

26:28

mean

26:29

by

26:29

that?

26:29

It's,

26:30

oh,

26:30

it's

26:30

a

26:30

lot

26:30

of,

26:31

you

26:31

know,

26:31

when

26:32

you're

26:32

a

26:32

teen

26:32

and

26:33

uh,

26:34

you

26:34

kind

26:34

of

26:34

do

26:34

the

26:34

whole

26:35

clique

26:35

thing

26:35

of

26:35

like,

26:36

oh,

26:36

I'm,

26:36

I'm

26:37

a

26:37

meto,

26:37

I'm

26:38

a

26:38

Nemo,

26:38

I'm

26:38

a,

26:39

I

26:39

listen

26:40

to

26:40

pop

26:40

folk.

26:40

There

26:41

was

26:41

obviously

26:41

MTV

26:42

and

26:42

VH1

26:42

and

26:43

M2

26:43

and

26:43

all

26:44

that.

26:44

Those

26:45

existed,

26:45

but

26:45

there

26:45

was

26:45

also

26:45

the

26:46

Bogan

26:46

versions

26:47

of

26:47

them,

26:47

like

26:47

MMTV,

26:48

which

26:48

was

26:49

more

26:49

pop,

26:49

like

26:50

pop

26:50

rock.

26:51

But

26:51

within

26:51

them,

26:52

they

26:52

had

26:52

metal

26:53

shows

26:53

that

26:53

were

26:54

showing

26:54

only

26:54

metal

26:54

things,

26:55

like

26:55

metal

26:55

songs,

26:56

music.

26:56

But

26:57

then

26:57

there

26:57

was

26:57

like

26:57

very

26:57

specific

26:58

channels.

26:59

The

27:00

music

27:00

cliques

27:02

that

27:02

would

27:02

happen

27:02

naturally.

27:03

If

27:04

you

27:04

say,

27:04

oh,

27:04

at

27:04

least

27:04

listen

27:05

to

27:05

this

27:05

channel,

27:06

it

27:06

was

27:06

almost

27:06

immediately

27:07

like,

27:07

oh,

27:08

I

27:08

know

27:08

what

27:08

kind

27:08

of

27:08

person

27:08

you

27:09

are.

27:09

Not

27:10

in

27:10

a

27:10

good

27:10

way.

27:10

Like,

27:11

not

27:11

always

27:12

in

27:12

a

27:12

good

27:12

way,

27:12

someone,

27:13

sometimes,

27:13

especially

27:13

as

27:14

a

27:14

teenager,

27:14

it

27:14

was

27:15

in

27:15

a

27:15

situation

27:15

that

27:15

would

27:16

never

27:16

do

27:16

nowadays.

27:16

Teenagers

27:17

love

27:17

to

27:18

judge.

27:18

They

27:18

do,

27:19

they

27:19

do.

27:19

They

27:20

look

27:21

at

27:21

you,

27:21

like,

27:22

they'll

27:22

go

27:22

like,

27:23

what

27:23

are

27:23

you

27:23

doing?

27:23

This

27:24

is

27:24

a

27:24

sort

27:25

of

27:25

prevailing

27:25

theory

27:26

of

27:26

cotton

27:27

my

27:27

30s.

27:27

There's

27:28

like

27:28

anyone

27:28

over

27:29

the

27:29

age

27:29

of

27:29

30

27:29

who's

27:30

into

27:30

one

27:30

genre

27:30

of

27:30

music,

27:31

don't

27:31

trust

27:31

them.

27:31

Because

27:33

that

27:33

seems

27:33

like

27:34

a

27:34

very

27:34

teenage

27:34

to

27:35

be

27:35

like,

27:35

this

27:36

is

27:36

my

27:36

genre.

27:36

By

27:36

the

27:36

time

27:37

you're

27:37

older,

27:37

I'm

27:37

like,

27:37

come

27:38

on,

27:38

like

27:38

there's

27:38

lots

27:38

of

27:39

good

27:39

music.

27:39

There

27:39

is.

27:40

And

27:40

it's

27:40

absolutely

27:40

fine

27:40

to

27:41

have

27:41

music

27:41

that

27:41

you

27:41

don't

27:41

like.

27:42

Equally

27:43

so.

27:43

Like,

27:43

it's

27:44

fine

27:44

to

27:44

say,

27:44

I

27:44

don't

27:45

really

27:45

listen

27:45

to,

27:46

I

27:46

don't

27:46

know,

27:47

EDM,

27:47

uh,

27:48

or

27:48

techno

27:49

or

27:49

whatever.

27:49

Like

27:49

it's

27:50

it's

27:50

absolutely

27:50

fine

27:51

to

27:51

not

27:51

to

27:52

jail

27:52

with

27:53

like

27:53

brilliant

27:54

rave

27:54

music

27:54

or

27:55

whatever.

27:55

No,

27:56

it's

27:56

fine.

27:56

That's

27:56

fine.

27:57

But

27:57

to

27:58

go

27:58

and

27:58

say,

27:59

hey,

28:00

you're

28:00

a

28:00

horrible

28:01

human

28:01

being

28:01

because

28:01

I

28:02

don't

28:02

like

28:02

your

28:02

music

28:02

is

28:03

a

28:03

pretty

28:03

fucking

28:04

crop

28:04

thing

28:04

to

28:04

say

28:05

or

28:05

do.

28:05

Oh,

28:06

absolutely

28:06

be

28:06

judging

28:07

you

28:07

if

28:07

you're

28:07

only

28:07

into

28:08

like

28:08

Christian

28:09

rock.

28:10

despite

28:10

me

28:11

liking

28:11

a

28:12

few

28:12

songs

28:12

from

28:12

Christian

28:13

rock.

28:13

Oh,

28:14

I

28:14

need

28:14

to...

28:14

Please

28:15

do

28:15

tell.

28:16

There's

28:16

one

28:16

good

28:16

one

28:16

that

28:17

always,

28:17

is

28:18

it

28:18

bonio

28:18

learn

28:18

to

28:19

fly?

28:19

It's

28:20

kind

28:20

of

28:20

one

28:20

of

28:20

those

28:20

like

28:20

stealth

28:21

Christian

28:21

rock

28:21

ones

28:21

that

28:22

kind

28:22

of

28:22

sneaked

28:22

under

28:22

the

28:22

radar.

28:23

I

28:23

know.

28:26

One

28:26

of

28:26

my

28:27

most

28:27

listened

28:28

to,

28:28

which

28:28

every

28:29

year

28:29

from

28:29

like

28:30

Spotify

28:30

rep

28:31

comes

28:31

at

28:31

one

28:31

of

28:32

the

28:32

most

28:32

listened

28:33

to

28:33

is

28:33

actually

28:33

spirits

28:34

in

28:34

the

28:34

sky,

28:34

which

28:35

you

28:35

will

28:35

know,

28:36

you

28:36

will

28:36

know.

28:36

rings

28:37

a

28:37

bell.

28:37

Yeah.

28:38

It's

28:39

about

28:39

like

28:39

being

28:39

being

28:40

friend

28:40

with

28:40

Jesus.

28:41

So

28:41

when

28:41

you

28:41

die,

28:42

you

28:42

just

28:42

go

28:42

like,

28:43

hey,

28:43

Jesus,

28:43

we're

28:44

friends.

28:44

Let

28:44

me

28:44

end.

28:45

I'm

28:46

on

28:46

the

28:46

guest

28:47

list.

28:47

I'm

28:48

on

28:48

the

28:48

guest

28:49

list.

28:50

Jay-Z's

28:52

my

28:52

pal.

28:53

Let

28:54

me

28:54

in.

28:54

them

28:55

Barley

28:55

Gates.

28:56

JC

28:57

living

28:57

your

28:58

scene.

28:58

But

28:59

yeah,

29:00

anyway,

29:00

sorry,

29:00

back

29:00

to

29:01

Bulgaria.

29:01

No,

29:03

that's

29:03

it.

29:04

That's

29:04

what

29:04

it

29:04

meant.

29:05

Like,

29:05

it

29:05

was,

29:05

it

29:05

was

29:06

a,

29:07

so

29:07

it

29:07

was

29:07

a

29:07

joke

29:07

note,

29:08

Dave,

29:08

to

29:08

be

29:09

honest.

29:10

It

29:11

wasn't

29:11

only

29:12

like,

29:12

oh,

29:13

you

29:13

listen

29:13

to

29:14

met

29:14

or

29:14

you

29:15

listen

29:15

to

29:15

him

29:15

or

29:15

whatever.

29:16

What

29:16

was

29:17

young

29:17

Nelly

29:17

listening

29:18

to

29:18

at

29:18

the

29:18

time?

29:19

I

29:19

want

29:19

to

29:19

know

29:20

what

29:20

was

29:20

since

29:22

you

29:22

were

29:22

putting

29:22

people

29:23

into

29:23

like

29:23

boxes

29:24

of

29:24

genres

29:25

of

29:25

music,

29:25

what

29:26

was

29:26

your

29:26

box?

29:26

What

29:27

year

29:27

were

29:27

you

29:27

talking?

29:28

Oh,

29:28

okay.

29:28

When

29:30

you

29:30

were

29:30

15,

29:31

let's

29:32

say,

29:32

15

29:33

year

29:33

old

29:33

Nelly.

29:34

So

29:34

15.

29:35

Yes.

29:35

Say,

29:36

I

29:36

was

29:36

not

29:37

necessarily

29:38

discovering

29:38

the

29:39

Peche

29:39

mode,

29:40

but

29:40

I

29:40

was

29:40

getting

29:40

more

29:41

and

29:41

more

29:41

into

29:42

the

29:42

Peche

29:42

mode.

29:42

There

29:43

was

29:43

also

29:43

one

29:43

Bulgarian

29:44

band

29:44

called

29:45

Ustavo,

29:46

which

29:46

is

29:46

fairly

29:47

well

29:47

known

29:47

for

29:48

Bulgarian

29:49

bands.

29:50

I

29:50

find

29:50

them

29:50

quite

29:51

boring

29:51

nowadays,

29:52

but

29:53

at

29:53

the

29:53

time

29:53

I

29:54

thought

29:54

they

29:54

were

29:55

so

29:55

so

29:55

deep,

29:56

so

29:56

Indian,

29:57

I

29:57

love

29:57

everything

29:57

about

29:57

that.

29:58

Teenage

29:58

hormones.

29:59

Teenage

29:59

horrible.

30:00

I

30:01

mean,

30:01

there's

30:02

lots

30:02

of

30:02

like

30:02

adult

30:03

friends

30:04

who

30:05

still

30:05

listen

30:05

to

30:06

them

30:06

and

30:06

they

30:06

still

30:06

make

30:06

music.

30:07

It's

30:07

just

30:07

that

30:08

I

30:08

don't,

30:09

I'm

30:09

kind

30:09

of

30:09

outside

30:10

of

30:10

the

30:10

indie

30:11

rock

30:11

creates

30:12

the

30:12

thousands.

30:13

There's

30:13

some

30:13

bus

30:13

still

30:14

like

30:14

from

30:14

there,

30:15

but

30:15

largely

30:15

it's

30:16

like,

30:16

yeah,

30:17

fucked

30:17

up.

30:17

It's

30:18

fucking

30:18

boring,

30:19

please.

30:19

Like,

30:20

I

30:20

like

30:21

to

30:21

listen

30:21

to

30:21

music

30:22

doesn't

30:22

make

30:22

me

30:22

fall

30:22

asleep

30:23

immediately.

30:23

I

30:24

like

30:25

a

30:25

good

30:25

boogie.

30:25

Yeah,

30:26

good

30:26

boogie.

30:26

You

30:27

guys

30:27

know,

30:27

I

30:27

like

30:27

to

30:27

go

30:27

out

30:27

for

30:28

parties

30:28

and

30:28

dancing,

30:29

but

30:29

like

30:29

of

30:29

late.

30:30

I've

30:30

been

30:30

listening

30:30

a

30:31

lot

30:31

to

30:31

the

30:31

song

30:31

about

30:32

bread

30:32

and

30:33

it's

30:33

it's

30:33

a

30:33

banger.

30:34

That's

30:34

a

30:34

Christian

30:35

Roku

30:35

song

30:35

as

30:36

well.

30:36

Okay.

30:37

No,

30:37

no,

30:37

no,

30:38

it's

30:38

just

30:38

this

30:38

lady

30:39

that

30:39

like,

30:39

all

30:40

I

30:40

want

30:40

is

30:40

a

30:41

little

30:41

bit

30:41

of

30:41

bread

30:41

and

30:42

then

30:42

she

30:42

just

30:42

lists

30:42

all

30:43

delicious

30:43

breads.

30:44

It's

30:44

great.

30:44

But

30:45

she,

30:47

but

30:47

there

30:47

is

30:48

a

30:48

twist.

30:48

Uh,

30:49

she,

30:49

she

30:50

can't

30:50

eat,

30:51

she,

30:51

she

30:51

can't

30:51

eat

30:51

bread.

30:52

She,

30:52

she

30:53

has,

30:53

uh,

30:54

uh,

30:54

she,

30:55

how

30:55

do

30:55

you

30:55

say

30:55

when

30:56

you

30:56

can

30:56

have

30:56

flour?

30:57

Gluten,

30:59

intolerance.

31:00

Yeah,

31:00

yeah,

31:00

yeah,

31:01

she

31:01

has

31:01

gluten

31:01

intoler-

31:02

intolerance,

31:03

so

31:03

she

31:03

can't

31:03

have

31:03

all

31:03

the

31:04

bread,

31:04

it

31:05

said.

31:05

A

31:06

song

31:07

about

31:07

her

31:07

fantasising

31:08

about

31:08

eating

31:08

bread.

31:08

Essentially

31:09

is.

31:09

The

31:10

forbidden...

31:11

If

31:12

you

31:13

want

31:13

to

31:13

look

31:13

it

31:14

up,

31:14

it's

31:14

just

31:14

called

31:14

bread.

31:15

It's

31:15

by...

31:16

Okay.

31:16

Namia

31:17

or

31:17

something.

31:18

It's

31:18

it's

31:19

good.

31:19

I

31:19

love

31:19

it.

31:20

Speaking

31:20

of

31:20

white

31:21

bread,

31:21

uh,

31:22

Segway

31:23

to

31:23

David.

31:23

Wow.

31:24

Take

31:25

away,

31:25

David.

31:27

I'm

31:28

sorry.

31:28

I

31:30

don't

31:30

have...

31:30

I'm

31:31

entertaining

31:31

myself

31:31

here.

31:32

Sorry.

31:36

What's

31:37

a

31:37

bit

31:37

of

31:37

bread?

31:57

Hello?

31:58

My

31:59

name

31:59

is

31:59

Pierce,

32:00

and

32:00

you

32:01

are

32:01

watching...

32:01

I'm

32:02

TV

32:02

Cook,

32:03

and

32:03

we

32:04

have

32:04

a

32:04

present

32:04

for

32:04

you.

32:11

What

32:12

you

32:12

were

32:12

saying

32:13

about,

32:13

um,

32:13

people

32:14

moving,

32:14

like,

32:14

their

32:14

channel

32:15

of

32:15

choice.

32:15

I

32:15

was

32:16

kind

32:16

of

32:16

like

32:16

that.

32:16

I

32:16

pretty

32:16

much

32:17

just

32:17

watched

32:17

MTV,

32:17

too.

32:18

Never

32:18

really

32:18

watched

32:18

MTV

32:19

the

32:19

1st.

32:20

I

32:20

was

32:20

very

32:20

much

32:21

in

32:21

the

32:21

I

32:21

only

32:21

like

32:22

rock

32:22

music

32:22

sort

32:23

of

32:23

phase

32:23

at

32:23

that

32:24

point

32:24

in

32:24

my

32:24

life.

32:24

The

32:24

best

32:25

thing

32:25

about

32:25

that

32:25

was

32:25

Zane

32:26

Lo

32:26

show,

32:26

which

32:27

I

32:27

don't

32:27

know.

32:27

Would

32:27

you

32:27

have

32:27

gotten

32:27

Bulgarian?

32:28

We

32:28

did,

32:28

yeah.

32:29

I

32:29

did

32:29

watch

32:29

it,

32:29

but

32:29

no.

32:30

Yeah,

32:30

I

32:31

didn't

32:31

realise

32:31

we

32:31

were

32:31

inflicting

32:32

all

32:32

our

32:32

MTV

32:33

on

32:33

you,

32:33

so

32:33

I

32:34

apologise

32:34

for

32:34

on

32:34

behalf

32:35

of

32:35

the

32:35

UK.

32:35

I

32:36

don't

32:36

know

32:36

if

32:36

you

32:36

got

32:37

that.

32:37

What's

32:37

the

32:37

name

32:37

of

32:37

that

32:37

again?

32:38

It

32:38

was

32:38

called

32:38

Gonzo,

32:39

the

32:39

show,

32:39

and

32:40

it's,

32:40

it

32:40

was

32:40

hosted

32:41

by

32:41

Zain

32:41

Lo,

32:42

who

32:42

now

32:42

on

32:42

Apple

32:43

Music,

32:43

I

32:43

think,

32:43

and

32:44

that

32:44

he

32:44

was

32:44

on

32:44

BBC,

32:45

Radio

32:45

One

32:45

for

32:45

a

32:45

while,

32:45

and

32:46

I

32:46

was

32:46

saying

32:46

about

32:46

kind

32:47

of

32:47

like

32:47

the

32:47

1st

32:48

influencers.

32:48

I

32:49

think

32:49

he

32:49

was

32:49

responsible

32:49

for

32:50

a

32:50

lot

32:50

of

32:50

my

32:50

tasting

32:51

music

32:51

growing

32:51

up.

32:52

because

32:53

I

32:53

was

32:54

being

32:54

influenced

32:54

by

32:54

him

32:54

and

32:55

have

32:55

a

32:55

request

32:55

for

32:56

the

32:56

audience,

32:56

which

32:57

is

32:57

there

32:57

was

32:57

an

32:57

interview

32:57

with,

32:58

geez,

32:59

remember

32:59

Lordie

32:59

from

32:59

Eurovision.

33:00

Oh,

33:00

yeah.

33:00

Not

33:00

to

33:01

be

33:01

confused

33:01

with

33:01

the

33:01

other

33:01

lord.

33:02

They

33:02

were

33:02

the

33:02

ones

33:02

who

33:03

had

33:03

all

33:03

their

33:03

prosthetics.

33:04

Metal

33:04

song.

33:05

They

33:05

were

33:06

like

33:06

dressed

33:06

as

33:06

demons.

33:06

Oh,

33:07

yeah,

33:07

actually,

33:08

yeah,

33:08

I

33:08

loved

33:08

that.

33:09

We

33:10

all

33:10

did.

33:11

I

33:11

love

33:11

I

33:12

love

33:13

a

33:13

prosthetic.

33:13

They

33:15

did

33:15

they

33:15

did

33:16

an

33:16

interview

33:16

on

33:16

Zane

33:17

Lo

33:17

show

33:17

in

33:18

like

33:18

full

33:18

prosthetics,

33:19

which

33:19

looking

33:19

back

33:20

is

33:20

mental,

33:20

because

33:20

that

33:21

must

33:21

have

33:21

taken

33:21

fucking

33:21

ages,

33:22

but

33:22

the

33:22

funny

33:22

thing

33:22

is,

33:23

is

33:23

that

33:23

they

33:23

all

33:23

looked

33:23

fucking

33:24

delighted

33:24

to

33:24

be

33:24

there.

33:25

So

33:26

it's

33:26

just

33:26

that

33:27

this

33:27

like

33:27

4

33:27

or

33:27

5

33:28

people

33:28

dressed

33:28

as

33:28

like

33:29

big

33:29

scary

33:29

demons,

33:30

but

33:30

all

33:30

just

33:30

with

33:30

big

33:30

fucking

33:31

smiles

33:31

in

33:31

their

33:31

faces.

33:32

If

33:32

anyone

33:32

can

33:32

find

33:33

a

33:33

copy

33:33

of

33:33

that

33:34

video,

33:34

please

33:34

send

33:34

it

33:35

my

33:35

way

33:35

because

33:35

I

33:35

couldn't

33:36

find

33:36

it.

33:36

Oh,

33:36

one

33:37

video

33:37

that

33:37

sprung

33:38

to

33:38

mind

33:38

was

33:38

human

33:38

behaviour

33:39

by

33:39

Bjork

33:40

because

33:40

I

33:41

think

33:41

that

33:41

was

33:41

the

33:41

1st

33:41

video

33:41

I

33:42

watched

33:42

where

33:42

I

33:42

was

33:43

realising

33:43

that

33:43

music

33:43

videos

33:44

could

33:44

tell

33:44

a

33:44

story

33:45

as

33:45

opposed

33:45

to

33:45

just

33:46

be

33:46

a

33:46

bunch

33:46

of

33:46

people

33:47

on

33:47

a

33:47

stage,

33:47

you

33:48

know?

33:48

Especially

33:49

when

33:50

you

33:50

finally

33:51

realised

33:51

that

33:51

she

33:52

has

33:52

been

33:52

tiny

33:52

the

33:53

whole

33:53

time.

33:53

You

33:54

can

33:54

act

33:55

a

33:55

human

33:55

person.

33:55

Pocket

33:57

beard.

33:57

She's

33:57

teeny,

33:58

tiny,

33:58

worm.

33:59

yeah.

33:59

And

33:59

then

33:59

suddenly

34:00

there's

34:00

this

34:00

full-sized

34:01

person,

34:01

just

34:02

like,

34:02

uh,

34:03

there's

34:03

a

34:03

little

34:03

honey.

34:04

I

34:04

shrunk

34:04

the

34:05

kids

34:05

moment

34:05

there

34:05

that

34:06

is

34:06

just

34:06

like,

34:06

0

34:06

wow.

34:07

Love

34:08

that.

34:08

Isn't

34:09

there

34:09

one

34:10

that

34:10

they're

34:10

like

34:11

sewing

34:11

pearls

34:12

straight

34:12

onto

34:12

someone's

34:13

skin,

34:13

but

34:13

just

34:13

like

34:14

going

34:14

for

34:14

like

34:14

the

34:14

ultimate,

34:15

like

34:15

this,

34:16

the,

34:16

the,

34:16

the,

34:17

the

34:17

top

34:17

of

34:17

the

34:17

dermis

34:18

so

34:18

it

34:18

doesn't

34:19

actually

34:19

break,

34:19

doesn't

34:20

bleed,

34:20

and

34:20

it's

34:21

just

34:21

like

34:21

they're

34:21

sewing

34:22

this

34:22

entire

34:22

entire

34:23

suit

34:23

of

34:23

pearls.

34:24

Oh,

34:24

I'm

34:25

just...

34:25

I'm

34:26

just

34:26

directly

34:26

saying

34:27

no

34:27

to

34:27

this.

34:27

Sorry.

34:28

That

34:28

sounds

34:28

like

34:29

I

34:29

don't.

34:30

I

34:30

remember

34:30

this

34:30

one

34:30

really

34:30

well.

34:31

This

34:31

is

34:31

actually

34:32

related

34:32

to

34:32

MTV

34:33

because

34:33

I

34:33

remember

34:33

being

34:34

drunk

34:34

one

34:34

night,

34:35

coming

34:35

home,

34:35

putting

34:36

MTV

34:37

2

34:37

on

34:37

and

34:37

that

34:38

was

34:38

on

34:38

and

34:38

just

34:39

sitting

34:39

there

34:39

just

34:39

like,

34:40

what

34:40

the

34:40

fuck

34:40

am

34:41

I

34:41

watching?

34:41

And

34:42

I

34:42

was

34:42

like,

34:42

oh,

34:42

is

34:42

it

34:42

SPR?

34:43

That

34:43

makes

34:43

sense.

34:44

Yeah,

34:45

it

34:45

has

34:45

kind

34:45

of

34:46

been

34:46

replaced

34:46

by

34:46

sort

34:47

of

34:47

online

34:47

stuff

34:48

now.

34:48

Which

34:49

is

34:50

it

34:50

a

34:50

sad

34:50

thing?

34:50

I

34:50

don't

34:51

know.

34:51

It's

34:51

like,

34:51

I

34:52

guess

34:52

you

34:52

can

34:52

still

34:53

watch

34:53

as

34:53

many

34:53

music

34:53

videos

34:54

as

34:54

you

34:54

want,

34:54

but

34:54

they're

34:55

just

34:55

not

34:55

conveniently

34:55

packaged

34:56

in

34:56

the

34:56

form

34:56

of

34:57

a

34:57

channel.

34:57

Yeah,

34:57

I

34:58

don't

34:58

really

34:58

miss

34:58

the

34:59

idea

34:59

of

34:59

like

34:59

having

34:59

someone,

35:00

okay,

35:01

these

35:01

are

35:01

like

35:01

my

35:01

top

35:02

5

35:02

video

35:03

clips

35:03

and

35:03

I'm

35:04

gonna

35:04

go

35:04

with

35:05

a

35:05

pointer

35:06

of

35:06

whatever

35:06

shape

35:07

or

35:07

form

35:07

and

35:08

tell

35:08

you

35:08

why

35:08

I

35:08

think

35:09

this

35:09

is

35:09

great.

35:09

It's

35:11

like

35:11

having

35:11

someone

35:12

really

35:12

excited,

35:13

recommending

35:13

you

35:14

a

35:14

book

35:14

and

35:14

then

35:14

you

35:14

read

35:15

a

35:15

book

35:15

and

35:15

it's

35:16

really

35:16

good

35:16

as

35:16

you

35:16

expect

35:17

it

35:17

or

35:17

it's

35:17

just

35:18

shite

35:18

and

35:18

you

35:18

wonder

35:18

about

35:19

your

35:19

friendship.

35:19

Um,

35:20

uh,

35:21

So

35:22

it's

35:22

a

35:22

little

35:22

bit

35:22

like

35:23

that

35:23

watching

35:24

like

35:24

the

35:24

old

35:24

VJs

35:25

and

35:25

having

35:26

them

35:26

comment

35:27

on

35:27

all

35:27

the

35:27

things.

35:27

And

35:28

I

35:28

think

35:28

one

35:28

thing

35:28

that

35:29

really

35:29

MTV

35:30

brought

35:30

along

35:30

was

35:31

a

35:31

bit

35:31

more

35:31

of

35:32

like

35:32

alternative

35:33

lifestyle

35:34

and

35:34

and

35:34

as

35:35

well

35:35

as

35:35

like

35:35

freedom

35:36

of

35:36

speaking

35:37

about

35:37

certain

35:37

things

35:38

that

35:38

were

35:38

not

35:39

so

35:39

outspoken,

35:40

especially

35:40

when

35:40

it

35:41

comes

35:41

to

35:41

women's

35:42

sexual

35:42

health.

35:42

One

35:43

of

35:43

the

35:43

most

35:43

watched

35:43

TV

35:44

shows

35:44

that

35:44

they

35:44

had

35:44

was

35:45

quite

35:45

late

35:45

at

35:46

night

35:46

and

35:46

people

35:46

could

35:46

just

35:47

call.

35:47

It

35:48

would

35:48

be

35:48

like

35:48

some

35:49

kind

35:49

of

35:49

weird

35:49

Reddit

35:50

kind

35:50

of

35:50

situation

35:51

and

35:52

ask,

35:53

uh,

35:53

unabashedly

35:54

about

35:55

all

35:55

sorts

35:56

of

35:56

sexual

35:57

related

35:57

things,

35:58

being

35:58

fluids,

35:59

being,

36:01

being

36:01

feelings,

36:02

all

36:02

sorts

36:02

of

36:03

things.

36:03

It's

36:04

just,

36:04

it

36:04

was

36:04

just

36:04

like,

36:05

the

36:05

can

36:05

of

36:06

worms

36:06

was

36:06

open

36:07

and

36:07

uh,

36:08

it

36:08

was

36:08

Penelope

36:09

who

36:09

was

36:09

the

36:09

host

36:10

of

36:10

that

36:10

one

36:10

and

36:11

uh,

36:11

she

36:12

was

36:12

just

36:12

super

36:12

chill

36:12

and

36:13

just

36:14

like

36:14

really

36:14

honest

36:14

about

36:15

everything

36:15

and

36:16

um,

36:17

and

36:17

I

36:17

feel

36:17

like

36:18

nowadays,

36:19

there's

36:19

a

36:19

bit

36:19

more

36:20

of

36:20

information

36:20

about

36:21

those

36:21

things,

36:21

but

36:22

as

36:22

a

36:22

teenager

36:23

growing

36:23

up,

36:24

I

36:24

feel

36:24

like

36:24

I,

36:25

I

36:25

learned

36:26

a

36:26

lot

36:26

from

36:26

that

36:27

and

36:27

uh,

36:28

it

36:28

does

36:28

mystified

36:29

a

36:29

lot

36:29

of

36:29

things

36:30

that

36:30

not

36:31

so

36:31

much

36:31

the

36:31

reality

36:32

shows,

36:32

but

36:32

like

36:32

the

36:33

shows

36:33

they

36:33

actually

36:33

produced

36:34

were

36:35

quite

36:35

innovative

36:36

in

36:36

that

36:36

way.

36:37

So,

36:37

yeah,

36:38

I

36:38

think

36:38

it

36:38

was

36:39

good

36:39

that

36:39

they

36:39

were

36:39

very

36:40

good

36:40

at

36:40

keeping

36:40

you

36:40

engaged.

36:41

I

36:42

guess

36:42

these

36:42

days

36:42

you've

36:42

got

36:42

information

36:43

like

36:43

that

36:44

on

36:44

the

36:44

internet,

36:45

but

36:45

then

36:45

it

36:46

would

36:46

have

36:46

been

36:46

at

36:46

least

36:46

kind

36:47

of

36:47

a

36:47

bit

36:47

more

36:47

curated

36:48

through

36:49

a

36:49

sane

36:50

person

36:50

as

36:50

opposed,

36:51

well,

36:51

hopefully

36:51

the

36:51

same

36:51

person

36:52

as

36:52

opposed

36:52

to

36:52

just

36:52

being

36:53

kind

36:53

of

36:53

like

36:53

squids

36:54

and

36:54

squids

36:55

of

36:55

whatever

36:55

on

36:55

the

36:56

internet.

36:56

So

36:56

that

36:56

was

36:56

probably

36:57

a

36:57

healthier

36:58

way

36:58

to

36:59

actually

36:59

get

36:59

that

36:59

information

36:59

out,

37:00

which

37:00

is

37:00

interesting.

37:01

Never

37:01

thought

37:01

about

37:01

that

37:01

before.

37:01

I

37:02

mean,

37:02

yes

37:02

and

37:03

no,

37:03

because

37:03

depending

37:04

on

37:04

the

37:04

topic,

37:05

it

37:05

would

37:05

have

37:05

been

37:05

very

37:06

much

37:06

filtered

37:07

by

37:07

the

37:07

whatever

37:08

preconceived

37:09

notions

37:10

those,

37:11

like

37:11

whoever

37:11

it

37:12

is

37:12

might

37:12

have

37:12

had.

37:12

Oi,

37:14

atali.

37:22

Yeah,

37:24

I'm

37:24

very

37:24

grateful

37:24

to

37:24

MTV,

37:25

I'm

37:25

sad

37:25

that

37:26

it's

37:26

gone,

37:27

but

37:27

at

37:28

the

37:28

same

37:28

time,

37:28

I

37:28

feel

37:29

like,

37:30

you

37:30

know,

37:30

when

37:31

they

37:31

say

37:31

it's

37:31

better

37:31

to

37:32

die

37:32

a

37:32

hero,

37:32

then

37:33

wait

37:33

until

37:33

you

37:34

become

37:34

the

37:34

villain.

37:34

Yeah.

37:36

I

37:37

feel

37:37

like...

37:39

have

37:39

a

37:39

cut

37:40

short

37:41

a

37:41

little

37:41

bit,

37:42

but

37:42

you

37:42

know,

37:42

it

37:43

had

37:44

his

37:44

glory

37:44

days

37:45

and

37:45

I

37:45

was

37:45

totally

37:46

there

37:46

for

37:46

it.

37:46

So

37:47

thank

37:47

you

37:47

so

37:47

much,

37:48

everyone.

37:48

Take

37:49

a

37:49

look

37:49

at

37:49

the

37:50

show

37:50

notes

37:50

for

37:50

the

37:50

links

37:51

to

37:51

today's

37:51

videos,

37:52

links

37:53

to

37:53

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37:53

et

37:54

cetera,

37:54

and

37:54

also

37:54

our

37:55

email

37:55

address,

37:56

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37:56

to

37:56

farcast

37:57

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37:57

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37:58

Would

37:58

love

37:58

to

37:59

hear

37:59

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37:59

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37:59

thoughts

37:59

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38:00

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38:00

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38:01

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