Explicit 39: Where's Your Head At - Basement Jaxx
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39: Where's Your Head At - Basement Jaxx

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A Scotsman, a Bulgarian and a Brazilian discuss monkey business.

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Ana: I don't know, naughty funk version of the hokey pokey.

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Ana: That's a great sentence.

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Nelly: Hello and welcome to We Can't Rewind We've Gone Too Far,

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Nelly: your favorite semi-regular podcast about music videos.

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Nelly: And today, we are joined by our favorite semi-regular guest, Anna.

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Nelly: Tell us, Anna, where is your head up?

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Ana: Hello, it's first is lovely to be back.

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Ana: It's been a while. And yeah, my head, that's a very good question. I'm not truly sure. I've

0:36

Ana: been to some pretty cool and intense costume parties. And so I feel like I'm in a bit of a

0:42

Ana: realm of between reality and dreams. And besides, my aunt always told me that she never knew where

0:50

Ana: my head was, but that my feet are firmly on the ground.

0:52

Ana: At least your head's not in a monkey.

0:54

Ana: Oh, I don't know about that. It might be. Or a dog.

1:00

Nelly: so now let's talk about where is your head at by basement jacks which was a request or suggestion

1:07

Nelly: by an actual listener so hello chris thank you very much for your absolutely banging suggestions

1:12

David: people are listening oh my god yeah i know finally some confirmation but yeah thank you chris

1:18

David: Where's your head at?

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Song 1: Where's your head at?

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Song 1: Where's your head at?

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Song 1: Where's your head at?

1:55

David: The video for Where's Your Head At?

1:57

David: was directed by a tractor.

1:59

David: Wait, no, I'm sorry.

2:00

David: It was directed by Traktor,

2:01

David: a group of filmmakers who directed a few music videos

2:04

David: before turning their hand to commercials.

2:05

David: The other music videos in question being

2:07

David: the Yeah Yeah song by Flaming Lips,

2:09

David: Push the Temple by Fat Boy Slim,

2:11

David: Plug It In, also by Basement Jax,

2:13

David: and the very not safe for work

2:14

David: Baby's Got a Temper by The Prodigy.

2:16

Nelly: The music video itself shot in Prague and stars Damien Samuels as "The Man" who has received

2:22

Nelly: a call from a scientist who claims to have "the latest thing in pop music".

2:26

Nelly: How mysterious!

2:28

Nelly: Weeeey!

2:29

Nelly: Let's talk about that.

2:30

Nelly: Uh, right, open floor for everyone.

2:33

Nelly: Uh, that music video I forgot existed.

2:37

Nelly: Uh, and it awoke some absolute nightmares.

2:41

Ana: Very good music, really good to bounce around.

2:44

Ana: but the visuals were definitely striking.

2:47

Ana: I really liked how they went from the puppetry to the CGI.

2:53

Ana: I think that was a very good transition.

2:55

Ana: But yeah, I don't know.

2:57

Ana: I don't know if that is the latest thing in pop music.

2:59

Ana: It sounds like things got a bit out of hand.

3:02

Nelly: But the CGI is genuinely very good for something done in 97, 98?

3:06

Ana: Oh no, it's good for the time.

3:07

Ana: But it inhabits that uncanny valley kind of scenario

3:12

Ana: that it was just like spooked out.

3:13

Nelly: in Prague. It's a guy who is

3:16

Nelly: a music producer,

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Nelly: insert of some description probably,

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Nelly: who has received a call from a scientist who claims

3:21

Nelly: to have the latest thing in pop music.

3:24

Nelly: There is an interview which

3:25

Nelly: goes weird where the scientist produces

3:28

Nelly: a band, we think,

3:29

Nelly: made of monkeys.

3:31

Nelly: Then things get out of hand

3:34

Nelly: and a whole underground

3:36

Nelly: kind of hostel movie

3:38

Nelly: vibe science research

3:40

Nelly: factory for monkeys

3:42

Nelly: and humans and shenanigans ensue.

3:45

David: Quite like the guy who's sort of established

3:47

David: as a dick straight away

3:49

David: when he's on the phone in the taxi.

3:50

David: You call him Prague the armpit of nowhere.

3:52

David: I think that's a bit unfair to Prague, frankly.

3:54

Nelly: Some really good music videos done in Prague

3:56

Nelly: apropos now.

3:57

David: But yeah, he's kind of established

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David: as a music industry dickhead

4:01

David: is what I got from it.

4:01

David: Yeah.

4:02

David: Which there are a few I've heard.

4:05

David: Not based in real life.

4:06

David: Are you sure?

4:07

David: Yeah, the effects are pretty impressive

4:08

David: for the time.

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David: It's like you can kind of see

4:11

David: the human face is sort of

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David: joying out with the monkey face. Oh yeah, it's

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Ana: giving like animorphs. I quite like

4:17

Ana: the idea of like the monkey

4:19

Ana: situation. Yeah, I was like

4:21

Ana: especially captivated by the little

4:23

Ana: puppet monkey at the start

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Ana: and then changed because

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Ana: it was good. It gave me some

4:30

Ana: NSYNC kind

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Ana: of puppetry but then

4:33

Ana: you know, the

4:35

Ana: arrival to the lab and then him

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Ana: being like involved in the whole trial

4:39

Ana: thing and then also gave me all the vibes of you know animal studies in the 50s people trying to

4:46

Ana: I don't know talk with dolphins and that kind of shit the kind of research that we would now they

4:52

Ana: see as as very unethical but that it was going on and it was a bit terrifying to be honest to think

4:59

Ana: about that but uh I'm glad in a way I'm glad that the monkeys had a had a bit of a rage going on there

5:06

Ana: I feel like I did have a bit of a flashback towards 28 days later,

5:12

Ana: but probably because I watched it last week.

5:15

Ana: So I was just like, oh my God, is that how it started?

5:20

Nelly: Are monkey bands the future?

5:23

Nelly: And the follow-up question, are monkeys the optimal animal to have as a band?

5:27

Nelly: And the follow-up question, what would be the most optimal

5:31

Nelly: or the most perfect animal to have in a band?

5:34

Nelly: Should you have the option?

5:36

Ana: You know, apparently there is a death metal band that the vocalist is a parrot.

5:43

Ana: Don't quote me on that.

5:44

Ana: I will double check my information, but apparently, yes.

5:49

Nelly: When you say a parrot, do you mean the actual bird or someone dressed as one?

5:53

Ana: No, no, no, no, no.

5:55

Ana: An actual parrot.

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Ana: Yeah, metal band, parrot lead singer.

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Ana: Yeah, the name of the band is Heatbeak.

6:03

Nelly: Sure.

6:03

Ana: Yeah, American Death Band featuring Waldo, a gray parrot.

6:08

Ana: So yeah, Hate Beak is the name of it.

6:12

Ana: So I mean, I don't know about many other bands.

6:15

Ana: Yeah, I mean, again, 50s trials, I know that they were trying to teach dolphins to speak English,

6:22

Ana: giving a lot of drugs to a lot of species.

6:24

Ana: So I don't know who could be the best one, but I feel like monkeys can be quite dexterous.

6:29

Ana: I can kind of see a monkey playing a xylophone.

6:33

Ana: Xylophone.

6:34

Ana: You know.

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Ana: Fair enough.

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Ana: Specifically a xylophone.

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Ana: Like maybe a drum kit as well.

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Ana: I feel like it had further like motor skills.

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Ana: I don't think like a violin might be a little bit difficult.

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Ana: Like not that it would be impossible, but I think it would take a long time to train a monkey

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Ana: to play a violin.

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Ana: While training a monkey to play a xylophone, I feel that's pretty damn doable.

6:56

Ana: But what do I know?

6:57

Ana: I don't work with, I mean, I do work with animals, but not in that capacity.

7:01

Ana: Have you tried to?

7:03

Ana: I have tried getting my cats to meow at the right time after playing a chord on the guitar.

7:09

Ana: It does not work.

7:10

Ana: Yes, but your cats are a demon sponsor.

7:12

Nelly: Well, at least one of them.

7:14

Ana: Oh, a little bit.

7:15

Ana: Maybe cats, actually, for a band.

7:18

Ana: There is the cat piano.

7:21

Ana: Oh, yeah.

7:21

Ana: The cat piano.

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Ana: So it would be like, you know, a bit like the monkeys, in theory, they are only in control

7:27

Ana: when they're being like puppeteered.

7:29

Ana: The cats, if you just let them lose, they'll run away from the cat piano.

7:33

Ana: I don't think they'll decide to stay and chill and meow with pain.

7:38

David: If we ignore whether they're physically capable of doing it,

7:42

David: because I feel like if we ignore that, then it depends on genre.

7:45

David: Like, I think capybaras would be great at kind of like shoegazy sort of stoner rock.

7:51

David: Explain.

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David: Just because, you know, if you...

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David: Like capybaras.

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David: Why specifically?

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David: Because they're always just kind of hanging out there.

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David: They're not very fazed by anything.

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David: I think I can imagine a capybara doing some sort of improv shoegazy stuff, you know.

8:04

Nelly: Do you know what?

8:04

Nelly: I like this.

8:05

Nelly: New question.

8:06

Nelly: Let's rate animals as per genre.

8:09

Nelly: Per genre.

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Nelly: So shoegaze, don't the rogue, capybara.

8:13

Nelly: Heavy metal, parrots apparently.

8:15

David: We literally have one, yeah.

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David: So that was it.

8:17

Ana: That's it.

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Ana: I think capybara would be reggae, to be honest.

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Ana: They'd just be there chilling with like, I don't know, with little birds picking on them.

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Ana: And they're just like.

8:27

David: What would be techno?

8:29

David: What animal is hyperactive enough for techno?

8:31

Nelly: Bears and cocaine.

8:33

Ana: There's some birds that are just like,

8:34

Ana: in spring,

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Ana: are just like really like screaming,

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Ana: fuck me.

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Ana: So, yeah.

8:39

Ana: Seagulls?

8:40

Ana: Oh, seagulls.

8:41

Ana: Oh, seagulls.

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Ana: Oh, they totally have that vibe.

8:44

Ana: Absolutely.

8:45

Ana: Oh, yeah, no.

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Ana: Seagulls.

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Ana: 100%.

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Ana: You just like...

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Ana: Techno seagulls.

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Nelly: You just have them like play everything

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Nelly: and you do the drop

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Nelly: and you're just waiting for the drop

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Nelly: and instantly the drop is just the seagull screaming.

8:57

Ana: I like it.

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David: could be a type of bird for like samba because they do like the mating dance and stuff like that

9:01

David: there's definitely a samba bird out there peacock peacock some peacocking some peacocking nice

9:08

Ana: oh my god i went to a party and it was the straightest party i have ever been to in berlin

9:13

Ana: do they have those in berlin well apparently they do i was not expecting it uh and i went in

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Ana: and it was really funny because the beat from the dj it sounded like it was saying peacock because

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Ana: And there was this one woman surrounded by three men in different stages of undress.

9:36

Ana: It was like a wife pizza kind of thing.

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Ana: And then there was the other one without his shirt already and spinning the shirt around.

9:43

Ana: And the other one was just like dancing with his hips kind of like thrusting.

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Ana: And I was like, now that's peacocking.

9:49

Ana: I felt like I was watching a nature documentary about like human intercourse and the casillation habits.

9:56

Ana: I don't know.

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Ana: Yes, I stopped dancing.

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Ana: I was just like watching those people.

10:01

Nelly: Did you have David Attenborough in your head narrating all of that?

10:04

Ana: Yes, I was going to say,

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Ana: now we see the female surrounded by potential mates.

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Ana: She has to make a choice.

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Ana: Who is it going to be?

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Ana: The one without the shirt is showing his endurance and athletics

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Ana: by spinning it in the air.

10:20

Ana: This January sounds like the straightest part you've ever been to over anyone.

10:24

Ana: It was hilarious.

10:26

Ana: I stay for the laughs in the anthropological study that was that place.

10:31

David: When you put it like that, the distance between us and monkeys playing music doesn't sound so big.

10:37

David: Maybe this video is onto something.

10:39

Ana: There was a cage as well, and there was people dancing inside the cage,

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Ana: and it was very monkey-like because they were climbing on the cage and shaking the bars and screaming, but in happiness.

10:50

Nelly: Okay, going back to genres, punk.

10:53

Nelly: Punk. A betta fish.

10:56

David: I'll have to Google that.

10:57

David: I've put pictures of all of these animals in the chapter art.

10:59

David: If you look at your phone now, you might be able to see it.

11:01

David: Unfortunately, Spotify does not support this yet,

11:03

David: but other podcast apps are available.

11:06

David: I'll leave some links in the show notes.

11:08

David: Anyway, bye to the show.

11:09

Ana: How do betta fish?

11:10

Ana: Yeah, how do you look like that?

11:11

Ana: Betta fish?

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Ana: Yeah, like a betta fighting fish.

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Ana: I have no qualms with that.

11:17

Ana: Confirmed it.

11:18

Ana: Can you see it?

11:19

Ana: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:21

Ana: No, that's chicks.

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Ana: So I gave one to my brother when I was little as a present for his birthday.

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Ana: And he called it Lars Frederiksen.

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Ana: And that fish loved punk.

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Ana: And he used to live right next to my brother's speakers.

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Ana: And he would like put a rancid for him and he would just like be vibing.

11:39

Ana: It was hilarious.

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Ana: Like, I never seen such an expressive fish in my life.

11:43

Ana: Not even better fish in general, just that one specific fish.

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Ana: To me, that specific one.

11:49

Ana: but it's like the whole beta vibe is fighting,

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Ana: and then they become all big with the crest.

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Ana: I'm not saying the punks are inherently violent,

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Ana: but I suppose if they do, you know,

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Ana: if they get a bit frisky,

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Ana: the whole thing just, like, shows up,

12:05

Ana: and they're like, brr,

12:07

Ana: how to make them play.

12:09

Ana: I don't know, maybe you could have, like,

12:11

Ana: little buttons, you know,

12:12

Ana: an Arduino situation.

12:14

David: We can engineer our way around this problem.

12:16

David: Yeah, we can give him a Mac.

12:18

Ana: and

12:20

David: just imagine

12:21

David: one of those

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David: like Apple

12:22

David: like I use my

12:23

David: laptop to make

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David: music but with

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David: like you know

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David: a dog

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David: do you know

12:28

Nelly: I'm not a

12:29

Nelly: Mac user David

12:30

Nelly: I know we're

12:31

David: pretentious

12:34

Nelly: good you know

12:35

Nelly: you play

12:35

Ana: oh so

12:36

Ana: pretentious

12:37

Ana: what would be

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Ana: heavy metal

12:38

Ana: a crows

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Ana: a murder of

12:40

Ana: crows

12:40

Nelly: I think we're

12:41

Nelly: stereotyping here

12:42

Nelly: I don't get the

12:43

Nelly: vibe of crows

12:44

Nelly: for heavy metal

12:45

David: they're probably

12:46

David: into classical music

12:46

Nelly: yeah maybe

12:47

Nelly: something like something like very emotional emotional rather classical music like Bach well

12:54

Nelly: like the or like because he plays lots of organ and his music is very very like intimidating all

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Nelly: I'm saying is I don't know this I do have a crow tattoo on me oh I love that you should be friends

13:05

Nelly: you should be friend crows in the park I do they'll bring you trinkets I like crows they're cool uh

13:11

Nelly: that's not to say I don't like heavy metal I like metal music but um what do we have left uh we have

13:17

Nelly: 2000 india so what is the

13:20

Nelly: crappiest animal that exists out there

13:22

David: oh yeah i forgot you hated burbot

13:24

Nelly: the most boring animal

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David: that exists

13:27

David: are they boring

13:29

Ana: apparently some people think it's the sunfish

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Ana: there's someone who wrote an entire

13:34

Ana: rant on reddit about the sunfish

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Ana: being absolutely useless

13:36

David: this is the second fish of google today

13:39

David: yeah they're massive but they have very

13:41

Ana: very tiny fins so they

13:43

Ana: can't really direct themselves or swim

13:45

Ana: very fast oh that's perfect so they're just like this buoyant giant and they eat jellyfish but the

13:52

Ana: thing is not many other animals eat them because since their diet consists of jellyfish they're not

13:58

Ana: very nutritious so they're just left alone to roam until they become gigantic sounds perfect

14:03

Ana: sounds absolutely perfect really seeing many arguments for saying that the boring uh the most

14:08

Ana: boring animal is is the sunfish they're cool though i think they're really cool i mean they're people

14:13

Nelly: who like 2000 indie music and that's so fine but that's perfect because like you if you leave them

14:20

Nelly: alone they either become massive and all-encompassing and like coldplay or they just fizzle out like oh

14:27

Ana: yeah yeah yeah like that one hit wonder kind of style of thing oh i don't know i'm terrible with

14:33

Ana: band names you can see i'm good with fish names yeah yeah random fish i also know a lot about sea

14:41

David: slugs but when it comes to windy band names what what genre is a sea slug oh it's a depend they

14:47

Ana: vary so much like honestly they are absolutely amazing so i feel like a sea slug would encompass

14:56

Ana: the entirety of the like latin american songs the entirety all of it because there is one for everyone

15:05

Ana: Don't let the walls carry in on you

15:09

Ana: We can't live all the world without you

15:13

Song 2: Don't let the walls carry in on you

15:16

Song 2: You get what you give, that much is true

15:20

Song 2: Don't let the walls carry in on you

15:24

Song 2: You turn the world away from you

15:28

David: Keeping on the nature documentary, Ben

15:30

David: Do you think that the bands who have the urge to trash the stage

15:35

David: Does that come from when we were monkeys and we just wanted to fuck everything up?

15:38

David: Is it like an animal instinct to trash a stage?

15:40

Ana: I think it's almost like a response of when you're like really pumped, you know, like,

15:45

Ana: like when you do something and you're like really pumped, mixed with like cute aggression,

15:51

Ana: you know, when you see such a cute animal, you want to squish it.

15:54

Ana: So I feel like it's a mixture of feeling the love of the crowd and that there is a cute

16:01

Ana: aggression in a certain way of like you know like even if thrashing everything around is a good way

16:06

Ana: to go i do feel like it's a very expensive habit i can't remember which band it was but um there was

16:13

David: one band where they would trash everything and then all the techs would run on and try and fix

16:18

David: everything like glue the guitars back together and yeah yeah i don't know like if it was like the last

16:22

Ana: show or maybe it's a goodbye show of a band and your guitar is already kind of falling to pieces

16:27

Ana: I think it might be a nice way to say goodbye

16:30

Ana: and then maybe like toss the pieces to the crowd.

16:32

Ana: I think that might be a good farewell show.

16:35

Nelly: This sounds like an incredibly healthy safe tourist

16:38

Nelly: because it's throwing like timber shards into people

16:42

Nelly: that are going to lodge into their eyes.

16:44

David: Yeah, I don't think it happens anymore, really.

16:47

Ana: We have like laser beams that could blind people in clubs

16:50

Ana: and nobody cares about, I don't know, them bouncing off mirrors.

16:54

Ana: They should, but they don't.

16:55

Ana: So who knows if they would care about a shard of metal or a splinter because of the woods.

17:01

Ana: But I don't know.

17:02

Ana: Who knows?

17:03

Ana: But I think it would be a good way to go.

17:10

Ana: I mean, it's in a band.

17:11

Ana: A band.

17:11

Ana: A good way to finish the lifespan of a band.

17:14

Nelly: So it's not your like...

17:16

Nelly: I'm actually secretly dreaming of going to the final gig of a band.

17:20

Nelly: We're going to trash their music instruments.

17:22

Nelly: We're going to...

17:22

Nelly: This is how I'm just going to go.

17:23

Nelly: This will be my end.

17:24

Nelly: I'm happy.

17:25

Ana: I think a lot about what I'm going to be when I reincarnate, but I don't know.

17:31

Ana: Like how I'm going to go is an enigma.

17:33

Ana: If reincarnation exists and if I can choose, I have my mind settled on what's going to be.

17:40

Ana: So I've got grand plans for the future.

17:43

Ana: Is it the betta fish?

17:44

Ana: No, no, no, no, no.

17:45

Ana: I'm going to be a sea slug.

17:46

Ana: One of those like really cool, colorful ones.

17:48

Ana: Nice, nice.

17:49

Ana: No borders, just going to hang out in tight pools and chill.

17:54

Ana: Be great and look awesome.

17:55

Ana: And eat some jellyfish.

17:58

Ana: So they eat the jellyfish and they pass the stings to their bodies.

18:02

Ana: So if any animal tries to eat you, you sing them as if you were a jellyfish.

18:06

Ana: Just really cool.

18:07

Ana: So I want to be one of those and be just like left alone from being eaten and just chat with

18:13

Ana: the other creatures.

18:14

Ana: Anyway, those are my plans for the future.

18:17

Ana: So David, what do you want to reincarnate as in your next life?

18:21

David: Possibly a capybara.

18:22

David: I feel like they just have the ultimate sort of social way of dealing with stuff

18:27

David: where they just walk up to any animal and they're like,

18:29

David: and none of the animals seem to give a fuck about them being there.

18:32

David: So I'm just like...

18:33

Ana: Capybaras are really cool.

18:34

Ana: Like I grew up with a lot of capybaras around me because, you know, Brazil.

18:38

Ana: They're from Brazil.

18:39

Ana: So yeah, but they're pals.

18:41

Ana: But sometimes what happens is like they invade people's houses and they go through their trash and they disappear.

18:49

Ana: And because of the like the rush of popularity, Capybara suddenly got like the maintenance of like population control and all of those things.

18:59

Ana: A lot of people are trying to get them as pets.

19:02

Ana: And yeah, it's becoming a little bit of a problem as far as I'm aware.

19:06

Ana: But, you know, I love a Capybara.

19:08

Ana: They're one of my favorites.

19:10

Ana: The best rodents.

19:11

David: Are they actually as chill as the internet makes them out to be?

19:15

David: Or is that a myth?

19:16

Ana: No, they are as chill as that.

19:17

Ana: They really are as chill.

19:19

Ana: There is this nature reserve where the main protected species there are alligators and

19:25

Ana: capybaras.

19:25

Ana: And they're just chilling one next to the other.

19:28

Ana: And usually there's a little bird poking at the capybara, eating the little fleas that

19:32

Ana: they have.

19:32

Ana: But they stink.

19:34

Ana: They are wild animals.

19:35

Ana: They reek.

19:36

Ana: I would not have one in my home.

19:38

Ana: But I love passing by and saying hi to them.

19:40

Ana: They're cute.

19:41

Ana: What do you want to reincarnate as, Nelly?

19:43

Ana: I'm curious now.

19:45

Ana: A cat?

19:45

Nelly: No, no, no.

19:48

Nelly: I really like asking those questions, but then not having answers to them.

19:52

Nelly: Monkey musician.

19:53

Nelly: No, because then that would require me to have some musical talent.

19:57

Nelly: And I don't.

19:58

Nelly: I don't know.

19:59

Nelly: I genuinely think Kroos is pretty fucking cool.

20:01

Nelly: Flying would be cool.

20:02

Ana: Yeah, you could do that.

20:03

Ana: Don't eat me, please.

20:04

Ana: I'm going to be a smushy thing.

20:06

Ana: I'm going to be smushy.

20:07

Ana: Don't eat me.

20:08

Nelly: No, I'm not.

20:09

Nelly: I'm not going to.

20:10

Nelly: I'll be in the opposite side of the world probably.

20:12

Nelly: Or I can become a seagull and just annoy the living shit out of everyone and still be a

20:18

Nelly: protected species.

20:19

Nelly: Which seagulls are in the UK.

20:21

Ana: Yeah, you would eat a lot of chips.

20:22

Nelly: Yeah, yeah.

20:22

Nelly: And I'll just be stealing people's pizzas and unattended food and I'll be like, fuck you.

20:27

Ana: Last time I was in the fringe festival, I went to get myself a crab and I gave like two bites

20:33

Ana: onto the crab and the seagull came out of nowhere and just took it away.

20:40

Ana: I was so angry.

20:41

Ana: It was a crap situation.

20:45

Ana: In a way.

20:46

Ana: But yes, I was very upset about my crap.

20:49

David: That was reincarnated in LA,

20:50

David: if you presume that time isn't linear.

20:52

David: That was just future reincarnated in LA,

20:55

David: stealing your crap.

20:56

Nelly: Yes, thanks to letting me know I shall haunt you

21:00

Nelly: next time you go to the fringe.

21:01

Nelly: So, anything else to say about this video?

21:05

David: Sorry, what's missing video?

21:06

David: I'm enjoying the wandering path.

21:09

David: has taken I think

21:09

David: it's perfect but

21:10

David: just I feel like

21:11

David: we're actually obligated

21:12

David: to actually talk

21:13

David: about the video

21:14

Nelly: would monkey bands

21:15

Nelly: be a good way

21:15

Nelly: to reduce ticket prices

21:17

Nelly: no because

21:18

Nelly: people would have

21:19

Nelly: to pay more

21:20

Nelly: because they

21:21

Nelly: have to be

21:21

Nelly: kept and taken

21:23

Nelly: care of

21:23

Nelly: and vets

21:24

Nelly: and all that

21:25

Nelly: yeah I was just

21:26

Nelly: wondering what

21:26

Nelly: next question

21:27

David: I just thought

21:28

David: when they're like

21:28

David: what is the business

21:29

David: plan here

21:30

David: monkeys are cheaper

21:31

David: are they cheaper

21:32

David: like surely you have

21:33

David: vet bills to pay

21:34

David: and all that stuff

21:34

David: like musicians

21:35

David: you can just kind of

21:36

David: you can just kind of

21:37

David: let them get on with it

21:38

David: they usually stumble

21:39

David: life. I've been listening a lot about

21:41

Ana: cults and I was listening about like the

21:43

Ana: children of God which don't listen

21:45

Ana: about that it's awful

21:47

Ana: strong do not recommend

21:49

Ana: but I would imagine

21:52

Ana: you know if we're talking

21:53

Ana: about the music industry and the way

21:55

Ana: it currently stands and how shit people

21:57

Ana: can be I think it would be like

21:59

Ana: monkeys in a compound being forced

22:01

Ana: to perform

22:03

Ana: so I think that would be cheaper

22:06

Ana: because

22:07

Ana: yeah they would just

22:08

Ana: be there

22:09

David: almost like circuses

22:10

David: factory farming for musicians

22:12

David: you just keep

22:12

David: keep them monkeys

22:13

David: going through

22:14

Nelly: isn't that what's

22:15

Nelly: happening at the moment

22:16

Nelly: anyway

22:16

Nelly: or has been happening

22:17

Nelly: for a while

22:17

David: oh well

22:18

David: they're getting replaced

22:19

David: by robots now

22:20

David: so it's fine

22:22

Nelly: well no

22:22

Nelly: all the

22:23

Nelly: all the music

22:24

Nelly: musicians

22:25

Nelly: like all the

22:25

Nelly: literal music factories

22:27

Nelly: in the like

22:27

Nelly: the 90s

22:28

Nelly: that were chilling

22:29

Nelly: churning out

22:31

Nelly: all the big boy bands

22:32

Nelly: and like girl bands

22:33

Nelly: that were just

22:33

Nelly: literally created

22:34

Nelly: oh god yeah

22:36

Song 1: like factory

22:37

Nelly: cookie cut

22:38

David: cookie cutter. That's the objective of the

22:40

David: monkey, the monkeys

22:42

David: is to accelerate

22:44

David: manufacturing bands. There's a quote from

22:46

David: a website that I can't remember. The video

22:48

David: contains the dig at the spugness of the dance

22:50

David: music industry when a performing monkey band

22:52

David: with human faces become the future

22:54

Ana: of music. I mean, I see that. I did

22:56

Ana: get that from the video, so

22:58

Ana: I'm glad that they gave me the message.

23:02

David: Cool.

23:02

David: Okay, we reviewed the movie video.

23:19

Ana: the puppetry at the start i really really liked it i think really passed on the message

23:24

Ana: the whole idea of like you know the way the criticism to the music to the music industry so

23:29

Ana: I really, really liked that. And I liked the transition and like how at the start, the producer

23:36

Ana: was just like, what the fuck is this? It's like some puppets and the piano, the fuck's going on.

23:41

Ana: And then it's suddenly taken to the lab where they see, it feels almost like going from a very shitty

23:48

Ana: prototype to a semi-finalized product. And I just like the idea of how the two of them sit next to

23:56

Ana: each other. Because quite often when I have to try and give people an idea of what I'm thinking for

24:02

Ana: doing as like going in a creative areas, like graphic design, and sometimes the first draft to

24:07

Ana: try to explain the situation is absolutely shit. But then, you know, when everything comes together,

24:13

Ana: it works. It looks really good. So I like that. But I also especially like that it ended with chaos

24:20

Ana: ensuing, which to me is the only good solution for the situation that those monkeys were in

24:27

Ana: and thinking about the industry music the way it is.

24:31

Nelly: So I feel like it was a very well-rounded story, to be honest.

24:34

Nelly: I miss videos like this that have a lot of money, a lot of creativity and the creative

24:39

Nelly: process.

24:40

Nelly: It's a nightmare for you all through and through.

24:42

Nelly: The CGI, as we already mentioned, it's great for its time, but also it utilizes the limitations

24:48

Nelly: that it had in a very good way.

24:51

Nelly: And I think it knew it had limitations,

24:53

Nelly: he knew how to use them

24:54

Nelly: in a very, very, very effective, creepy way,

24:56

Nelly: which I guess was the reason.

24:58

Nelly: And also, they allowed to show this

25:00

Nelly: in like daytime TV.

25:02

Nelly: The 90s were a fucking trip, yo.

25:04

David: Yeah, it does have that kind of 90s edginess

25:06

David: that you don't get so much.

25:07

David: Give me kind of Jurassic Park vibes.

25:09

David: They were too concerned about whether they could,

25:11

David: they should, they never stopped and asked

25:12

David: if they should or whatever the fuck it was.

25:14

Song 1: Life finds a way.

25:15

David: I was going to say.

25:16

David: Life finds a way.

25:17

David: Life finds a way.

25:18

David: the music industry finds a way to make itself worse and worse and worse.

25:22

David: This is an alternate timeline where instead of all musicians getting replaced by AI,

25:26

David: they got replaced by monkeys.

25:28

David: Honestly, I think I would have preferred this timeline, actually.

25:30

David: It's a good video. It's a classic.

25:32

Ana: It really is. I had never seen it before.

25:34

Ana: And I've heard the song so many times before as well.

25:36

Ana: So it's funny sometimes to just watch the thing.

25:40

Ana: It's like, oh my God, what's going on?

25:42

Ana: Which I find is often what happens when I listen to your podcast

25:46

Ana: and then I go like, wow, this is just a lot.

25:57

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26:01

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26:05

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26:09

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