Explicit 2: Dancing In The Streets - David Bowie and Mick Jagger
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2: Dancing In The Streets - David Bowie and Mick Jagger

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A Scotsman, an Irishman and a Bulgarian admire Bowie and Jaggers dad dancing.

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Can I just say Medics Without Borders?

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Medi-san.

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S'in frontier.

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Medi-san.

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Medi-san.

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Can you just use this?

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Just edit it instead of me.

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Doctors Without Borders.

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It means Doctors Without Borders.

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Why not just call it Doctors Without Borders?

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Because it's, I think, French is supposed to be more international than English.

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English is hard.

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It's technically all of our second languages.

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It is true.

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I mean, it's Scottish, me Irish, and Nelly.

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They're thinking my third, because my second is German.

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Oh, sure.

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Hello and welcome to We Can't Rewind, We've Gone Too Far,

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a podcast where Scotsman, an Irishman, and a Bulgarian

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review the most terrible, silliest, and weirdest-as-fuck music videos.

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Hi, I'm Dave.

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Hi, I'm Neil.

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Hi, I'm Neely. Today we will take a look at the creative endeavor of two giants of rock music, David Bowie and Mick Jagger.

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I'm of course talking about their 1985 cover of Dancing in the Street.

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This video is nowadays hailed as one of the dumbest music videos to come out of the 80s,

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but was it actually that bad or was it just an underwhelming piece of creative energy?

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It doesn't matter what you wear

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Just as long as you are there

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So come on, every guy

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Grab a girl

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Everywhere

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Around the world

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Now we're dancing

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Dancing in the street

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That's it for you

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Originally recorded in 1964

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by Martha and the Vandelas

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Vandelas

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Stevenson, Ivy Jo Hunter and The Marvin Gaye. Hailed as a Motown classic. The story goes

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that Stevenson first came up with the idea while watching people cooling off using an open

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fire hydrant. It later became a civil rights anthem played during demonstrations. It was

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later covered by the likes of the Mamas and the Papas, the Kinks, Van Halen and of course

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Boy and Jack. The background of the version is probably more interesting than the actual

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video. So let's talk briefly about the life aid famine relief. In 2020 we're all aware

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Christopher Coffigus surrounding the good intentions of the concerts, from Bob Geldof ignoring warnings from

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Doctors Without Borders regarding the political situation in Ethiopia, to the general bitchiness of different performers, and the baffling, did they know it's Christmas?

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Originally the pair were planning to contribute to Live Aid by performing a duet live via satellite link from the prospective tours.

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However, technological limitations quickly put an end to this plan as they realised that delaying the link would make it impossible unless Boy and Jagger mimed.

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Being the committed professional as they were, and are, this opinion was refused.

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Thanks to this, we got one of the most brilliant, hilarious and ridiculous rock collaborations in history.

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Directed by David Mallet, budget probably consisted of free alcohol and whatever drugs to make you bounce off the walls.

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Also, whenever Jagger is taking a sip of halfway through the video.

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This is one of the videos you really can't explain.

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It just exists in its own continuum where you hear the names David Boyd Mick Jagger

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and you expect the most mind-blowing rock experience of your life.

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Instead, you get two guys goofing off at the now derelict turn-of-the-century

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Flower Mill, Millennium Mills, next to London City Airport.

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Compared to our last video that we discussed, November Rain,

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this video was not just tame, it's full-out boring.

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No diving through cakes, no random guitar souls on top of cliffs,

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No Axel Rose taking a dump on graves.

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We do, however, have David Boy and Mick Jagger in their most 80s outfits

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and their most 80s dad moves,

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dancing around the abandoned emergency fire escapes of the millenium mills buildings.

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The video opens up with a shot of Jagger's feet running in place,

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presumably a warm-up for the relentless dancing to come.

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They dance around the flour mill for a bit

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in the manner of the last two people still drunk and up for a party,

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while everyone else falls asleep and considers kicking them out.

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They decided that this post-apocalyptic party is too lame for them,

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and they decided to take it to the streets.

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Also, suspiciously empty, presumably everyone hiding,

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or a dry run for the COVID outbreak.

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I think we're going to remove the COVID references.

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Yeah, I mean, it kind of works.

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We don't want to remember this thing.

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People always say dance like no one is watching.

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Well, that's pretty much what happens here.

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Except they're dancing around each other with the intensity of two people who have had a

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bit too much magic powder.

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Jagger stops to take a sip of a mysterious beverage to keep himself hydrated, which is

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a sensible health and safety move when you're dancing with such intensity.

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After trying to outdo each other during the scenery for a bit, they briefly gatecrush some

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poor bastards flat to do synchronized doorway dancing like a funky Benny Hill sketch.

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Then onward back into the streets, the sun rising from the biblical night of that dancing,

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the cameras zooming into their respective rear ends and the song fades.

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Just like Bowie and Jagger's memory of shooting this video.

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So okay, we are all in a nationwide lockdown, okay?

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And we are watching too rich guys not following government guidelines on social distancing and

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endangering themselves for shits and giggles.

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And, on top of that, they're promoting unsafe practices by rallying people to go out and

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dance in the street.

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It's amazing what you could get away with in the before time.

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Yeah, especially when you're rich and white and popular.

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And I guess handsome people find him handsome at some point, somehow?

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It looks like they're finding each other handsome the whole way through the video.

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Wasn't there?

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Wasn't there like this whole story how they were found, uh, Bowie was found naked in Jagger's

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bed or something?

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Am I making this up?

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There was definitely a story about Bowie allegedly shagging some other rock star, but I can't

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remember if it was Jagger.

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It could have been multiple, to be honest.

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80s was a hell of a time. 70s, really.

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They've known each other for a while, I think.

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Yeah. I mean, you could go outside,

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you could go to the shop.

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Does anyone remember how this felt?

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The sun on your skin,

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dancing in the streets?

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Dancing in the streets.

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If anyone asks who hasn't experienced

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dancing apart from the joy of 2020,

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tell them that this is exactly

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what life used to be like. Have you ever been

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at the Glasgow School of Art,

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degree show street parties when this still happens.

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I don't think so.

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Like they were literally that, but it wasn't two people.

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It was like 500,000.

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On evenings of drunkenness, I have literally danced in the street in a very similar way to

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these guys.

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Though with the addition of a kebab, surely.

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Yeah.

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Doing the leg kicks from a kebab shop.

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A kebab and whatever tune from wherever I'm fucking falling out of is still going through

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man.

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Clearly blue the gun.

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Oh man,

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I haven't had a blue

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in ages.

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Does that still exist?

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It does.

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I think,

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well,

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it did.

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Does it?

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Until this week,

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although the chip shop

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next to my house

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is still open,

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so yeah.

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Oh man,

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hungry.

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Yeah,

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I don't think we're

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going to get around

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the COVID thing.

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no matter what we're gonna say we're just gonna go no i think it's kind of bound um okay so jokes

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yeah jokes aside let's talk about actual video yeah i but the video personally i think the video

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is fucking brilliant it's just they're just kicking around dancing like idiots yeah and it's like and

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they and they clearly don't give a fuck it's right like i i i can stand i know that this video has

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this horrible reputation.

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And I understand

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that it's not the best thing ever,

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but at the same time,

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they're bonding it up together

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with stuff like Journey

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and Bon Jovi videos.

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And it's like,

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what are you doing?

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It's just two friends

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having fun getting drunk

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and getting fucking high of coke.

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Are they drunk?

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I think it's definitely

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a powdered substance

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because they're jumping

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way too much to be drunk.

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Well, I mean,

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it depends what you drink.

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If it's beer, maybe not.

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No, I think that there's a telltale sign about one minute, five seconds into the video where Jigerda stares a Bowie in the eyes.

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He's going to shank him with a Bowie knife.

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And to me, that shows, oh, hold on, if you freeze frame it, that shows clear, clear intent to do damage.

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I just want to point out these speculations.

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We're not saying that Age of Dames is a cokehead.

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Yeah, allegedly.

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Allegedly.

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This is 1980s coke or early 1990s.

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The good shit.

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Because there was a period where David Boy was in Berlin, I think.

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He went to Berlin so he could try and get off heroin.

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So was this before or after this?

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Yeah, like five albums that are just based above Berlin.

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I think the other aspect of the video is the fact that, once again,

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unfortunately, we're going to wind up getting back to fucking COVID here.

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But it's just the fact the place is totally empty.

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yeah it's almost like everyone's in a quarantine and they're the only ones who are still out

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because they're david bowie and mick jerry what i presume happened is they just need to slap something

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up in like half an hour for yesterday and they were like okay this is this abandoned place in

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central london let's just all go there and shoot it was probably them two like a camera person and

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maybe a lighting person and that's it it does kind of feel like that because they were originally

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they might have do it live then they realized that wasn't gonna happen so maybe this was just like

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it let's just go shoot something and help the children you can well i mean i think it's a real

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tell sign that there's what one interior location with two rooms and one external it's basically

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following the student film rules of uh of locations yeah yeah but i do quite enjoy the camera work like

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it's super clean like they're not trying to go to do anything crazy in artistic or whatever just like

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high kicks behind doors and you're suddenly turning around and David Bowie jumping ahead

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like on top of you it's kind of it's fun it's easy to watch and it makes me happy that's it

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just makes me happy no the the camera works pretty good I mean considering that external shot you

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cranes down it I think it feels a lot like first takes because the camera feels a little bit jumpy

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and the cameraman who shoots it's like trying to reframe because he forgets it Jagger comes out at

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a slightly higher angle than Bowie or whoever

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comes out. Yeah, it looks like it's

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all one take. Oh fuck, it's not one take.

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But the thing is,

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it's probably multiple takes, but because it was

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Rush Beyond Belief, it just looks a bit janky.

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That track shot at

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one minute, 20 seconds in, where they're just dancing

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around and there's no other crew, really

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does, you know, show

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that the budget was quite, quite small.

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As we said, alcohol and coke.

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Actually, yeah, Jagger does take a drink.

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Yeah, he does take a drink.

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Where did that come from? I wasn't there a second ago.

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I had this theory. I never actually paused to see, to look at the can.

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I think it might be Coke bottle or can.

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Because I think Coke were one of the main sponsors of LifeAid.

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If I'm not wrong, I might be wrong.

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Because otherwise it's just a very random shot to be left in there.

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I mean, the whole video is random as fuck, but it's still a very random shot.

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It's entirely possible he just had that little beer or something with him and he just went fuck it.

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But I do love the fact that after he takes a drink, he just stares intensely at David Boy for a minute

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as he's going for it and he's like oh shit it's my bit

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this is why the silent

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video to it is just absolutely amazing

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yeah because you just have

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like noises they make because

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like David Bowie 100% chatted

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when he jumped off that

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staircase

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we can't go any further without mentioning

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the absolute glory that is the silent

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version of the video

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where they've added in the sound effects

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and a little bit of singing and stuff

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but taking out the music

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and it is so good

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to the point where every time I watch it

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I'm going like, I wish I thought of this

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I'm dancing in the street

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Doesn't matter what you wear

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Just as long as you are there

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Come on, every guy

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Grab a girl

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Everywhere

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They'll be dancing

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If you do, you spin me right around

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Like the original video

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You just hear like some swooshing noises

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I was reading through reviews

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And I was trying to find what people thought about it

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But all they said was, oh it's dumb

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Because to be rock stars

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I mean, come on, it's the fucking 80s

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Have you seen the videos that they had at the time?

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I prefer it to November

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Yeah, November was pretentious

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This one is just, we have no money

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But we have a hell of a lot of coke

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some beer let's shoot a video do you think they actually choreographed the dances i think they

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must have because there's a little bit of synchronizing going on i don't know i feel like

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it's probably like oh mic mic it would be really funny if you do that thing and then just like

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rehearse it for like three and a half minutes and then like record it they just done the first thing

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that came to their heads there's no thought put into that look at the way they move i don't know i

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think it could be a situation where it's like really choreographed it's choreographed in such

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a way that it looks like shit.

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Probably not. I don't think neither of them were

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dancers, so maybe not. Well, at least I don't

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think they were dancers. They both had the move.

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One had the move like Jagger, literally.

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Well, that's true.

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No, by the way, speaking of

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I completely forgot his movie was tricked.

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He's actually done a hell of

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a lot of things, both Bowie

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and the Rolling Stones. He did Radio

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Gaga, which is

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pretty decent.

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I want to break free is fucking brilliant.

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how much of all is good,

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like, his videos, ACDC.

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So it's like, he clearly knows what he's doing.

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So maybe he actually made a point,

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had a point of just making it look so junky.

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So it doesn't look like they've spent money on it

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because it's all supposed to be a, like,

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famine relief video, whatever.

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It could be the situation where it was a production disaster

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and they were just like, fuck it, just do it.

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But however, they got three geniuses in a room together

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and, oh well, the streets together

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and just went fucking have at it.

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According to the songfacts.com,

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it said that Bowie and Jagger recorded the song

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in just four hours.

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And in 2017, Jagger was quoted by Rolling Stone

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saying, we banged it out in just two takes.

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It was an interesting exercise

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on how you can do something without worrying too much.

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So is that about the video of the song itself?

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That is the video.

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Oh, well, that makes a lot of sense then, doesn't it?

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Two takes looks about right.

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Two takes, I mean, that's twice more than I thought they'd done.

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it's got that going for it

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okay so everyone's favourite

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part of the video

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if anyone has this

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it's between the synchronised door dancing

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that's just comedic but I do enjoy the bit where he just

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takes a sip of beer at the can because

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it looks like that wasn't planned he just thought

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I fancy a bit of beer and now I'm going to stare

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at David Bowie intently for a few moments

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which is a perfectly natural thing

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I think the highlight

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was probably the slow motion dive

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by David, it's totally

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unnecessarily. Could have caused

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them lots of harm and damage but

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it was interesting that he'd done it nonetheless.

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It was pointless too. I mean

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why jump into the scene like that?

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In slow motion? I mean it's like

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jumping off the second step of your

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staircase. It doesn't really prove any

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point. It looks cool. It looks badass.

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That's definitely my favourite part

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from the no music version

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just because of the scream

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they put in. It was very good.

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Definitely my favourite part

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is the synchronised door dancing.

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it's just like those those leg kicks are amazing just keep just keep out them i can have like 10

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hours of just leg kicks i think that i really get right the whole premise of the song is dancing in

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the streets but why are they dancing in what looks like a crackdown and yeah the the bakery yard

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you know in the central london why not like just go dancing in the streets because then they have to

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actually pay people and like police maybe to call those streets could have just turned up somewhere

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and just recorded and it would have been probably a lot more uh a lot more engaging and interesting

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but considering what it is i mean it's it's it's not a bad music video but it is pretty shit

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it's it's a so bad it's good situation yeah yeah that definitely for me it's really unoffensive

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right i mean it doesn't annoy me um kind of the way i'm go west go west kind of confused the shit

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out of anyone who watches it and november rain kind of you know you get more confused the longer

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you're watching because you just question everything's

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going on. But this you kind of

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just accept the two as these two

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these two middle-aged men

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just dad dancing like

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a wedding. And you can't really

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fault them for it. Did we do bits that

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we didn't like last time? I can't remember.

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We did, but not sure there's anything that

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you can say I really hate about this video because it's all

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Yeah, there's nothing I actually

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dislike about it. I think the only bit

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that's a minor nitpick is the slow

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motion where it zooms into their arse at the end is a bit

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jumpy but that's just a probably just a technological limitation at the time so i can't really well i

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guess you just didn't know how to finish it because like the song itself kind of just fizzes out and

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how do you finish this when you have only two takes for the footage i feel sorry for the guys

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you had to edit the thing together like what else we got and they're like that's it

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the choice is very limited one thing i'd i'd forgotten about is the fact that by the end of

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the video it looks like the sun's coming up so it does seem like they were literally filming this

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all night oh yeah yeah you're right because it goes from like really dark to kind of blue i mean

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there was probably a lot of drinking there so yeah there's some point they're like okay let's just

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finish this and go and get some art let's go take some heroin no did you care oh david okay okay just

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nice family friendly cooking so what are your final thoughts on this guys uh it's a knife for me

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yeah it's a knife for me definitely a knife for me as well it's it's totally unoffensive

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still very confusing but nonetheless an entertaining watch we all agree then yay well done

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well done one does exist so what are we doing next then oh god uh let me open the

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sheets open up the spreadsheet spreadsheet um do you guys want to do 90s now because we were kind of

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like stuck in 80s slash period in 90s?

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Do you feel like 80s?

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I'm up for some 90s.

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Something with really ropey CG.

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Not go-ass ropey, but you know.

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Black Hole Sun.

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Black Hole Sun's good, yeah.

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Is it Soundgarden or...

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Soundgarden.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I nearly said audio.

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I think it's Nirvana or something.

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One of those balls.

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They're all the same.

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Say goodbye, everyone.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Don't forget to wash your hands.

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Catch it.

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Kill it.

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in it.