Explicit 11: Life - Haddaway
Ep. 11

11: Life - Haddaway

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A Scotsman, an Irishman and a Bulgarian wonder if robots can truly love.

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Machine, machine and mensch, mensch?

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Machine and mensch.

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Machine and mensch.

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Machine and mensch.

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It's a robot, just a German robot.

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Machine and mensch.

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Hello and welcome to We Can't Rewind, We've Gone Too Far,

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a podcast where a Scotsman, an Irishman and a Bulgarian

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review the most terrible, silliest and weirdest as fuck music videos.

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It does look fairly legit, but...

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I'm sure it is, but also...

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The obviously automated email put me off.

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Hello, podcaster.

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They know me so well.

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In this episode, we'll be discussing the big questions.

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What is the meaning of life?

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How can we find our other halves?

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And where do we draw the line in the name of love?

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We hope to find the answers to these and many other questions in Hathaway's 1993 hit single,

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Life.

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No, not the other one, this one.

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Time is getting cold

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What is going on

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What is on your mind

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Are your feelings gone

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Need to see it clear

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Where do we go

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Why are you doing great

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So there isn't much to the history of this video

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As it's usually the case with Eurodance tracks, this video exists purely as a marketing material.

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Life is the second single of other debut album, The Album.

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The first single being, of course, the immortal What is Love.

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The song was a major hit in Europe, as well as Israel, Canada and Zimbabwe, apparently.

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Regarding the video itself, it is by far the most mysterious one we've ever had to date.

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No information on director or production whatsoever.

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Paying homage to the German expressionist classic Metropolis,

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Hadaway takes on the role of a mad scientist and inventor

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who creates a machine and mensch as a dancing female robot.

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Did I get that?

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Yeah, I was fine.

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They dance, they kiss, they look hot in tight pants.

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There is cheesy dance music.

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It is a quintessential dance music video.

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I mean, it's a pretty straightforward music video.

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There's not much to it, which is great.

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It definitely is riffing on Metropolis.

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It's quite funny seeing a kind of daft Eurodance version of it.

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Yeah, I mean, Metropolis is kind of the quintessential first year art school student movie, isn't it?

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I genuinely remember the lecture that we were introduced to German Expressionism and they were like, yeah, Metropolis.

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But also watch other movies like The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, because no one ever told you about this as well, or Gollum or whatever.

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I'm going to complain.

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I actually haven't seen Metropolis, but I'm fully aware of it.

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I had this thing back when I first started watching a lot of films.

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I was strongly against black and white films.

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I don't know why.

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It's really stupid in hindsight.

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I think it's something on my list to watch because, like I said, I'm fully aware of it.

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I know the story, but I just haven't seen it.

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So I can't really compare the sort of similarities that they try to do in this.

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They literally create the creation of the woman robot.

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Right.

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It's literally what happens in Metropolis.

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And I think it does quite a good job at kind of emulating the shots and stuff like that.

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From what I remember, the shitty VHS copy that I had, it did look quite similar to this.

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Albeit with a lot more cheesy lights and sparks and shit in this version.

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Yeah.

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And Hadaway doing Hadaway stuff, which is also good.

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Looking seductively at the camera.

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The main sort of thing I got out of this video was, apart from just enjoying the ridiculousness of it,

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it was just a mild existential crisis.

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It seems like he's trying to create himself a robot girlfriend.

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I just started thinking about all the sort of philosophical sort of implications of that.

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Has any of you seen the movie Virtual Sexuality, I think it's called?

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Where a woman couldn't find a boyfriend or whatever,

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and she accidentally creates like literally a copy of herself,

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but male, through virtual reality, and he comes to life.

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I can't actually remember Habas anymore, but it's like late 90s kind of cheesy teen comedy-esque.

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This is what I was thinking about when you're being like, oh, he's creating the female version of himself or like cloning himself.

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There's a shot towards the end where he puts the helmet on himself and there's some sort of beam of energy going from his head to the robot's head.

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I just love in that scene and presumably in all the scenes where he's playing the doctor, he's still wearing his leather trousers.

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I know, this is great, I love it.

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And leather jacket at the beginning as well.

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Like, what kind of a dingy lab are you, like, what do you mean?

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Jesus fuck.

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He takes the leather jacket off when shit's about to get real.

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It's like, okay, I'm not trying hard enough, I need to put the fucking strainer thing on

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my head and shoot my thoughts over to this robot.

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Yeah, but before that, he takes off his shirt as well, and it's like, okay, where is that

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going to now?

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He was getting himself ready for the dance-off with the robot.

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Honestly.

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Yeah, great.

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If I ever brought a robot to leave, I think that's what I would do.

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I would dance off with it.

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Yeah, so what do we think of the set?

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As the resident set designer, I kind of like really love the fact that they're using very

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obvious like random shit they found at like Home Depot or whatever the German version of

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that is.

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Like lying around, like at some point when he goes to press a button to start the process

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of transforming the robot into a woman.

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He literally goes to a dangling extension cable

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and presses a random button.

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It's like a very, very obvious extension cable as well.

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He probably wouldn't have gotten funding for his lab

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due to the aforementioned moral implications.

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So he was just kind of building up

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from bits that he found lying around.

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I bet he used all the funding to his leather jackets.

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Not cheap.

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Yeah, leather ain't cheap.

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Well, they're very well fitted,

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so they're definitely not cheap.

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The very first shot, as the song starts,

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it looks like there's two fans sitting next to each other

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and every time I see it, it looks like a set of fans from a GPU

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have just been taken off.

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Yeah, from a graphics card.

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It's ahead of its time there, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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But I don't know if they would have looked like that at that point,

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so maybe not.

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I can tell you now that they didn't

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because they didn't generate enough heat to need fans.

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It looks like a modern one, so maybe you got that from the future.

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It could be from something else.

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It could be from VHR or something.

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It's probably just a couple of fans.

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VCR? Sorry, V8's VCR.

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Oh, yeah, I just saw the clip of the X-Ledger, right?

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Yeah, it's literally X-Ledger.

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If you were theoretically going to build a set for this video,

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would you have done anything different,

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or would you basically just do the same thing?

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I'll probably use a bit more light.

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I'm not sure that the lack of light was them trying to be atmospheric.

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The makeup of the Lady Robot after they removed the helmet

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kind of makes me think that they were aiming for German expressionism,

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but that doesn't really work when everything is in full colour.

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Yeah.

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And also it doesn't work when you don't have light

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because the idea is not just lack of light

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but the conversation between lightness and shadows

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and the video is just dark.

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And it has like a full light moment but not really.

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I do remember vaguely from when I watched Metropolis

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I do remember there being some shots

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where you could see the characters clearly

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but you couldn't really see what's behind them.

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So maybe they were trying to emulate that.

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And probably would that work because like you know

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metropolis was shot like 100 years ago no that's true although i do quite like the it kind of looks

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like there's a bunch of big monoliths behind them when he's singing into the camera and they're kind

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of glowing and they look like they're kind of smoking and on fire and stuff at points they

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definitely had a smoke machine and used the shit out of it yeah oh they got their budget done on that

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and his little jackets we killed three smoke machines in this picture one thing i liked about

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the set was it was all shot against one sort of uh one sort of backdrop they never really turned

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around so it was all straight on so i think there wasn't really a big budget to allow them to move

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around too much so everything is from the one sort of angle even the crazy lab to the to the dancing

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with the smoke to the uh you know that when the robot sort of comes to life so i don't know if that

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was based on budget constraints or just the style but i kind of like that idea that they made it work

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against one fixed sort of angle compared to a lot of videos which we've seen where they have

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obviously a big budget but yeah they still can't do shit with it well that's the thing like i'm

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very disappointed that there's absolutely no no information anywhere who's director or the

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production company or anything about this video it's not an amazing video it's definitely cheaply

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made but there is like james little like little james here and there uh as you said the fact that

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they went on like probably non-existent budget

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to create something that had an idea.

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It's a pretty tight execution overall.

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They had very clear vision of what they were doing.

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And I just, I'm very disappointed.

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I would like to see what else this director,

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if anything, had done.

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If anyone has any information about the director

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or whatever of this, email,

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go into a forecast at gmail.com.

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Probably not though,

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because it literally like fucking

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commed over the internet

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and there's absolutely no information anywhere.

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Maybe someone knows how to do we.

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I'm grass mistrows here

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you might be listening into this episode

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you never know

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personally if I'd worked on this video I'd be quite proud of it

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yeah absolutely

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so they should let the world know that this is their

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glorious creation

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they kind of made it work

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I mean it's a fucking Eurodan song

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what else would you expect from them

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you won't really expect the budget that

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fucking Guns N' Roses have

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there was so many Eurodan songs

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coming out at that point

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I imagine maybe there probably wasn't enough budget

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to go around them all. That's why a lot of them are very

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cheaply made. The reason this podcast

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exists is because me and Neil were

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watching a reason with a dancer

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in a pub in

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central London. I did not know

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that. Yeah. This is where I had

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the idea. I don't know if Neil remembers.

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To tell you the truth, Neil is

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the die.

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Fuck off, Neil.

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You were there. Yeah, but how drunk was he?

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I'm the least drunk

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Irish person who will probably meet.

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I'll have a comfortable three pints and I'll be happy to go to bed.

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That's the magic number for pints.

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Once you get over three pints, you either go home or the night goes out of control.

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In my experience.

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The point of no return.

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Anyway, Haraway.

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Haraway.

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I don't know.

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I think I went through all my talking points, guys.

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Take over here.

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Why is he topless though, really?

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Why the fuck is he topless?

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Like, I'm not saying he's not hot, but why?

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I think it's done in a tasteful way.

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It's not over the top.

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No, it is literally the top, Neil.

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I think he knows

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he's already planned this moment out in his head

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he's like that motherfucking robot's

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gonna come to life and the moment

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it comes to life I'm gonna dance

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like a motherfucker. I said motherfucker too many times

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He can dance like a motherfucker with clothes on

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Yeah but it might be really hot in the studio

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Maybe he takes off his

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fucking little pants won't be that hot

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There's lots of steam so it's

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clearly hot

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They're not coming off let's be honest

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Maybe we should investigate

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the health and safety aspects of this lab

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because it does seem to be a little bit on fire

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most of the time. Maybe that's

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why the director doesn't want to admit

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who they are because they just

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completely fucking stamped over any health and

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safety. Germans are very

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strict about that probably.

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If they find out he'll never

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work in this town again. When he's

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trying to activate the robot there's a gauge

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that literally says life level on it.

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I never go on that to be honest.

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It's like the first time you see it you can't really

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read it because of YouTube resolution but the second time you see it it definitely does say

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life level. I thought it said love level.

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I thought the staging and the lighting was really good fun. It did have that sort of trancey

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90s Euro

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sort of vibe to it, which I think it just plays

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right into the whole genre. The thing is about

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this style of music

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and this period of time, it didn't

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feel to me now, looking back at it

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really hard or really violent

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or really angry.

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It almost feels like it's

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really easy listening now compared to

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modern day stuff. And I think it sort of has a

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charm to it, which I don't think you

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probably recreate nowadays.

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When I was on the Wikipedia page of the software the song

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the critical reception because i forgot to put this in the notes is fucking hilarious

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all music editor i'm not gonna tell their name because i don't think that they want to be like

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recognized here complimented hadway's passionate urgent delivery on the song and there was added

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pleasure coming from hadway's assured voice pleasure really wow there's some weird things

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going on here also kingston informer which is some local like media that doesn't exist anymore

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called the song Brilliant.

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This is the level of music we're talking to

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in Kingston Informer.

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I think I'm on the whole agree with those reviews.

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I'm just trying to listen to the lyrics.

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I'm trying to figure out what the song is

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if it is actually about anything.

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It kind of sounds like

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not a breakup song, but like

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time after a breakup song.

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Because life will never be the same.

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Life is changing.

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Which kind of follows, you know,

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what is love, baby, don't hurt me.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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Was it the same album as?

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Yeah, yeah.

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This is the second ever song, single,

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and What Is Love was the first one.

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Maybe that's why he's making a robot girlfriend

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because Hadaway has just broken up with his real one.

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So he made a sad album and then made a robot girlfriend

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and now he's started.

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You've cracked the code.

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To be fair, Eurodance is kind of like relatively known

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for dumb lyrics that are trying to say stuff

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like Rhythm is a dancer

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and I'm looking at the lyrics for What Is Love.

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It's great.

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That's for another time.

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No, no, now. We're doing it now.

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No, I don't know why you're not fair.

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I give you my love, but you don't care.

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So what is wrong?

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No, sorry, what is right and what is wrong?

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Give me a sign.

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Oh, man.

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Live sounds basically like what is love version 2.0.

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It has a very similar beat.

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It kind of sounds the same, to be honest.

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But it's a 1993 song.

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We have reviewed a lot of songs from 1993 in this podcast already.

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Is this 1993 again?

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It's 1993S.

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What the hell?

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We have done it, guys.

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Well, that was not intentional.

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A year for music.

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I think another thing we haven't talked about is the robot lady,

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when she comes to life, she turns from being literally made out of metal

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into obviously just a woman in some sort of tracksuit with a helmet on.

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But it looks like they're projecting light onto her,

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so she has these kind of Hacker Man computer visuals going all over

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while she's dancing.

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I got the Tron vibe from that.

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Yeah, it looks pretty cool.

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At first I was like, is that a green screen thing or something?

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But I'm pretty sure it's just a projector.

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I think it's someone with an overhead projector, maybe.

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Dragging pages through.

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Now, it looks like a projector.

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But then again, it's not on him when he's in front of her.

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Might be a very tiny projector.

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Might be like a human-shaped projector.

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I don't know, green screen.

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No, it's not a green screen.

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I'm fairly certain it's a projector.

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Yeah, it looks too good to be a green screen shirt.

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To be fair, there's like a fair amount of distance between the two of them.

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They can work out.

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They can do some German engineering.

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Yeah, I'm sure they'll.

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Again, if we actually knew the director, we could have asked.

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Maybe Haraway was the director.

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Can you imagine if he'd done everything?

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He might have.

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Well, let's just take the assumption that he did.

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Then that means that he's not bad at a lot of things.

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Definitely good at dancing.

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Pretty fucking solid dancer.

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Until we hear otherwise, I'm going to go with that theory.

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That's why he looks like a mad scientist,

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because he actually is a mad scientist of light.

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I think we need to discuss the most important question.

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Is a robot capable of love?

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That is an important question.

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It is.

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If it's running enough code to trick a human

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into thinking that it's conscious,

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does that mean that it's actually thinking,

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or is it just running a program so well that you can't tell?

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I'm very certain there is a few episodes of Star Trek

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that's the new generation to talk about that.

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I'm pretty sure there's a test for this.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's a Turing test.

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Ex Machina is about this.

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It's about, oh yeah, that's such a good film, Ex Machina.

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It is great.

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Assuming the robot can feel emotions,

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assuming he's a good enough mad scientist

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to have created sentient life,

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and he has obviously made this robot

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to be his bird or whatever,

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just judging by the fact that he kisses her at the end.

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But morally, what does that mean?

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Yeah, as he basically made a sex slave,

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that's what I'm asking.

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Yes, but guys, what is love?

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Baby, don't hurt me.

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Wait, wait, wait. Is this song from the point of view of the robot?

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Is she asking him to not hurt her?

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Oh my god.

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Because he is like created a sex slave and suddenly she realises

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that she's being used by this weird German guy who dances a lot and wears leather jackets.

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Again, I think we've uncovered a front.

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Right at the end where the robot goes, well, he goes to kiss a robot.

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Oh, she looks a bit miffed.

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Which could either be because she's a robot and has no emotions or the other option.

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Sort of like you're standing on a tree next to someone, you just lean in for a kiss.

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It's the same sort of idea.

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Probably even worse.

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Well, both implications are kind of horrific.

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Because in one case, she's like, I don't want to get kissed by this guy.

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And the other option is, holy shit, I just realized that I've been created by this guy to get loved.

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I guess.

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Don't hurt me.

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Both horrific.

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Did we just like completely destroy the video for everyone watching from now on?

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But okay, so if you say theoretically, say she can't feel any emotions because she's a robot,

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then is he in the clear or is it still morally weird?

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Well, that's like kind of ask the question is, are sex robots the ones that currently exist?

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Where do they stand?

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Like, where do we draw the line?

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Like, if they're able to dance, does that make them more human than they already are?

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Yes, but I mean, Toyota have made dancing robots for years, but I don't see people queuing up to shag them.

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Not that you know of.

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Believe someone.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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I've seen videos.

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Okay.

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They're next to the cowboy videos.

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I haven't seen videos, I promise.

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I have not seen videos.

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I've seen a lot of videos with Bonnie Tyler, but that's all.

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Yeah.

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We're going to like deep philosophical questions here.

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Because like...

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Are we overthinking this 90s Euro Trans video?

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No, I say no.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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We're doing it.

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We're doing it.

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It's your fault.

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Well, either of you, whoever wrote that line there.

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Yeah, that was me.

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So like going back to Star Trek TNG, which is probably my going to like kind of my reference

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when it comes to like androids and humanoid robots and where do they stand in the whole

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scheme of are they human or not?

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Yeah.

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If someone remembers one of the first episodes of season one,

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where they all turn into horny cons.

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I apologize.

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Horny bastards.

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And Data, who is obviously the android,

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he has sex with one of the female characters there.

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And I'm pretty sure that there's a reference somewhere

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that he's fully functional.

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Yeah, so it's kind of like, yes, he's technically not a human.

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Like he's an android, but he can consent and he can withdraw consent.

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Like there's a question mark whether he can love,

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but he can definitely stick his android penis into someone's vagina.

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I've always presumed that Data was sentient,

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but maybe I just haven't seen enough episodes to...

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No, I mean, he's sentient, but...

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And he's absolutely sentient, but is he...

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Like the question is whether he can love,

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because love is a very specific feeling, I guess.

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Hold on.

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Let's ask Scott from Star Trek Corner.

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Scott?

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Scott from Star Trek Corner.

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Come here for a second.

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Yeah, what?

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Is it all right if Data fucks someone?

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Yeah.

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So, what is your opinion on Data?

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Sorry, Data from TNG.

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Yeah.

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Feeling love.

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Yes.

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Being capable to feel love.

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And also...

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Fucking...

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Right.

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Okay.

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Data doesn't have emotions unless he puts them in.

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emotion chip in his brain.

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He can't feel love.

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He can have friendships, though.

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So, and he's perfectly,

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he's completely functioned in all ways.

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And he's well-versed in manners and pleasure,

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as evidenced by his swing with Tasha Yar.

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And he does miss her when she's gone,

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but he doesn't really feel love.

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But damn, he can fuck.

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So he does have emotion chips for other emotions.

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Sorry, he got nice to hear you guys.

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

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Here we go.

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Hello.

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You can actually hear you now.

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I can't, though.

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I was just asking, does Data have emotion chips for other emotions,

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or is it just one?

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He has an emotion chip.

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So at some point, they develop an emotion chip,

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or they find one.

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I can't remember what it is.

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I think they find one that his creator made,

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and they're like, oh, look, it's an emotion chip for Data.

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And they put it in, and he goes completely wild and crazy,

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and Ken will handle it.

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They eventually slowly figure it out.

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It's that whole thing with Geordie and Data,

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where they're figuring out his emotions.

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And yeah, Data could feel love and can feel love and has the ability to with the emotionship.

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But his brother Law is kind of the what if Data had emotions and was evil.

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And so Data generally doesn't put the emotionship in.

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But he has like affection.

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I think you need to explain here for people who don't actually watch Star Trek ever about his brother and the fact that he has like a twin brother.

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He has twin brother Law who is evil.

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Who is also an android.

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Also an android but has a working emotionship.

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And he's a cunt.

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Because I was saying in early, I always presumed,

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because I've seen a bunch of episodes of The Next Generation,

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but I've not seen all of them,

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so I always presumed that Data was capable of emotions,

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but apparently he's not.

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He did not know that.

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This thing is, by the end of the series,

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he can just turn it on and off.

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He's like, I'm going to have emotions today.

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And he's like, ha ha ha ha ha, and turns it off again.

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I wish I could do that.

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But I think it's the third episode of season one

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where Data bonks very quickly.

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They're like, yeah, Data can fuck.

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Data can fuck, and he will fuck.

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if you ask him

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so in that

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in that situation

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this is relating

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to the video

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somehow

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but I would just

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it probably would be

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morally alright

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as long as

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the robot

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and the human

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consented with each other

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I guess

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well that's the thing

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is like data is like

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data consent

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say it's like

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yeah alright

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he's well up for it

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but it's kind of like

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why people don't really

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like people don't

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take advantage of him

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they don't go like

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yo data

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like let's go

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like because no one else

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like has asked

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because he doesn't have

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any emotions

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so they don't feel

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any kind of like

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attraction

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it only happens

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when the entire shit

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gets horny at once because of space because of space anomalies making everyone horny and then

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someone turns up it's like yo dale let's go and he's like sure and then afterwards he's like when

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like that character dies and he's like the one the one character i had like a quote-unquote

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relationship with having the erection for yes in the case of this video the robot seems to be made

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specifically to be hadaway's girlfriend yeah that this is where the moral quandary's coming in i mean

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the more quantities come in in star trek like star trek the card when it turns out they

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they accidentally turned data into a race of slave robots and then the question comes does

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someone have a data sexually and the answer to that is probably yes no it didn't do somewhere

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yeah anyway anyway and the headphones back i think it's got from star trek corner what corner will

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you have next week tune in to find out anyway yeah so does that answer any questions or raise more

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yeah uh well conclusion i've come to my head is it's all right to fuck a robot as long as the

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robot is fine with it and you're fine with it but in this case it would it definitely looks like he's

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made the robot just to fuck the robot so and we don't see in the video whether the robot's all right

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with it i think uh i'd be on some shaky ground here well the video cut off very early on so you

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can't really tell either way maybe the robot just fucks off and gets a job in it should we go into

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final point with anything else we're talking about i think we're good i think that's uh cool

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you never quite know what you're going to get

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with we can't rewind we've gone too far

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and honestly we've just gone way too far

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this time we can't rewind

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and we will go too far and you can't

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stop us unless you

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unless you press pause in your podcast

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so

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this video didn't really need to exist and it doesn't really add anything to the pantheon

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of music videos. But it's funny and it's silly and it's very much of its time. And

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it's honestly a true mystery why wouldn't the director make themselves known, as there's

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definitely some mastery I guess shown in the making of the video and I think it was pretty

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tight. It's a zany 90s dance version of Metropolis and it's not hiding it. There's cool light

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shows there's cheesy mad scientist shenanigans some pretty badass dancing there's a cool

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projection yeah i like it so i'm a fan of these narrative driven music videos and i think life

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pretty much ticked all the boxes that i wanted that was a good story it was entertaining it was

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fun good dance moves and all that my only assumption is that i don't really get why nester needed a

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clone but maybe it's some sort of metaphor could it be a metaphor for something for life i don't know

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that'll do that'll do yeah so favorite parts was the uh was nestled throwing shapes um i'm convinced

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that throwing shapes like that could make a comeback in 2021 2020 is still currently a

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write-off i'm feeling in favor of this maybe next year folks least favorite uh the quality of the

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video wasn't that great but i don't think that was anything to do with the video itself it was just

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whatever got uploaded to youtube i don't get why like videos like this don't have like decent copies

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or they can be remastered or whatnot but i guess there's so many videos out there um it'd be

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to sort of have the best quality for them all.

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I'm a little disappointed by that

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because I think it probably would have held up a bit more.

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I don't know about you guys,

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but I find it quite hard to focus on

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because my eyes were trying to correct for the blurriness,

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which doesn't exist.

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It was fine, got the idea.

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Best moment for me is when Hadaway's shown as the scientist

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and he's wearing a full leather outfit

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and it made me snort and actually made me pause the video,

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go back to the Wikipedia page,

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confirm that he's supposed to be a scientist

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and go and rewatch it again.

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And the worst moment for me,

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it's kind of a tiny pet peeve,

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is the makeup of the robot lady

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when her helmet gets removed.

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I get what they're going for.

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Like, I get that they wanted to get her

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to have a kind of a harsh German expressionism style makeup,

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but that really wasn't working very well

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if the video is in full color.

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And you kind of get those weird blue eye shadows

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that just kind of look weird.

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And honestly, they truly just kept it to completely grey

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and white and black and it would be fine.

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That's just me.

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Probably had more of the oldie vibes.

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It would have been more sort of paying an homage

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to like Nosferatu, you were saying earlier.

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Probably Metropolis, come to think about it.

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Yeah, I mean, in that case, that makeup just like,

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instead of German expressionism,

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it reminded me more of the video of A Flock of Seagulls' I Run, honestly.

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That's the second time you brought this up.

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that video up in the podcast really is it worth what could i i cut out of one of the recent episodes

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oh it's a dumb video we should watch it maybe not review but just watch it right i've never seen it

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so i'm gonna have to watch it and see all the fusses about it's a really dumb video it's great

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my favorite part is the dancing after the robot comes online uh because this is clearly some form

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of calibration sequence and you don't want an uncalibrated robot girlfriend so it's good that

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they've done that and the worst part is the general

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overall existential crisis

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slash moral quandary that this video

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has caused me

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we're doing eyes and nose

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eyes and nose

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it's very much an eye from me

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it's an eye from me

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see it was a no from me but after having this conversation

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with you guys I'm kind of on the fence

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I think it's a very soft eye

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because it's fun

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I don't like it but it's fun

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Just pick a random song and then

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let's just see

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Like random number

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Throw a dart and we will hit 1993

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Honestly probably

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18

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Bonnie Tyler total eclipse of the heart

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Is it too soon?

29:46

Too soon yes

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- Sumonives, give a number then.

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- 27.

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- 27 is Aqua Dr. Jones, that actually might be good.

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- Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones, go.

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- Tell me Dr. Jones.

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I don't know if both of you know the video.

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- It's kind of a, well, Indiana Jones is straight out of this.

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- Oh yeah, I do remember this, yeah.

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Yeah, I see them kind of looking like they're on a safari.

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There's lots of random shenanigans happening.

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Yeah, I'm up for that.

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- It's nice to see that the quality is as good

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as the last video.

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It's 360p.

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That's lower definition than the tube TV of the day.

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Oh, God, it's really bad.

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I think we need to officially start a campaign

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to get decent quality videos uploaded to YouTube

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for the sake of our podcast.

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Join us next time when we'll be listening

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and discussing Aqua's video for Dr. Jones.

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Join us.

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Join us.

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Do it.

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Now.

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Yeah, leave a review on iTunes.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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and I'm heading to the side