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Your brain on boot pop is a peanut size.

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back to 1999, the year the Matrix

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described as the peak of human civilization.

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Well, that's debatable. I think we can all

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agree that it was definitely the peak of

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one notable music sub-genre, Britpop.

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And we have a fine example today.

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Join us for one anthropomorphic

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milk cartons

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love story of, uh, fucking hell,

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that's a hard word to say. Anthropomorphic.

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David, David, anthropomorphic.

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Anthropomorphic.

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You should just, like, say it now and then

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you should put, like, the AI voice

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lady to say it over here.

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anthropomorphic milk pardon you won't believe what he did next are you making it comic sans

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i am no no no no no yeah i remember in in primary school they said that the reason why comic sans is

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you so much is because if you're dyslexic or dyspraxic or whatever it's easier to read like

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i don't know it's easier for your eyes to see i might be wrong so let's try that again say the word

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Anthropomorphic. It worked.

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Join us for one anthropomorphic milk carton's story of love, loss and discovery.

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It's Coffee and TV by Blur.

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Do you feel like a chain store?

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Practically flawed

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One of many zeros

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Kicked around four

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Your ears are full but you're empty

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"Coffee & TV" was released on the 28th of June 1999, where it reached a respectable

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11th in the charts in the UK, 22nd in Ireland and weirdly, 22nd in Iceland.

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Who knew Iceland was so into Britpop?

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The song itself is about Blur's guitarist Graham Coxon's struggle with alcoholism.

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He also did the vocals of the song,

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which is probably why it is one of the better sounding Blur songs.

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But to be honest, the bar with them or any Britpop band is on the ground.

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Man, I hate Britpop.

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Dave, this is your fault again.

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Sorry.

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We'll get into Nelly's hatred of Britpop later.

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Oh, you don't like it.

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Do you?

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Oh, it depends.

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I will judge you if you say yes, so...

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I'm not a massive fan, but I feel like it's just a default due to our location,

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which unfortunately is Britain at the moment.

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The video was produced and directed by Hammer and Tongs,

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who consists of director Garth Jennings and producer Nick Goldsmith.

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The pair produced a small truckload of late 90s and early 90s music videos,

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including Ash, Travis, Hot Chip and Beck.

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They later went on to direct full-blown films,

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including one of my personal favourites, the film version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy,

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which, as a massive Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy fan,

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is actually good, even if it's not quite on par with the books.

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but it's still good.

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It's got a couple of jokes in it

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that are unique to the film

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that are hilarious.

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Ford, I think I'm a sofa.

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I know how you feel.

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I'm getting sidetracked.

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I think Saga's going to Galaxy's career.

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Really good puppets in that as well,

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which is another thing we will talk about.

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Yeah, like the book,

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I don't remember the movie Beyond,

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Mos Def, so...

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Yeah, Mos Def was good, isn't it?

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Good Ford Prefect.

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Although Charlie, who was on last time,

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he described Martin Freeman

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as the tuna sandwich of acting.

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He's never bad,

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but he's, you know,

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he's just kind of,

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it was all right, yeah.

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That's a good way to put it.

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He's, yeah, do you understand which fucking sounds about right?

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The video follows a sentient milk carton called Milky,

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who embarks on a journey to find the upper-mentioned Grim,

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who's gone missing,

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but venturing out into the big bad world

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proves to be a bit more than Milky bargained for.

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So can you copy and see me easily?

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I've seen so much I'm going blind

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And I'm playing it virtually

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The social reality is hard enough for me

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Take me away from this big path

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Growing the creeps and marrying me

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It's the meat that's not over again

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We're milky.

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Is milky not just going through life

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like everyone's currently going through life

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where it's one step forward, two steps back?

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How often do you have your love interest

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being stepped on to death by a giant human.

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I mean, it could be a metaphor.

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I mean, we all get stepped on, right?

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Our love gets stepped on.

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I mean, we all have a teacher who gets stepped on every day.

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Keep your kinks in the bedroom away from us.

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Yes.

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I like how you just have to take a second,

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just to stop for a second.

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That's an extra podcast.

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Available by request.

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that's available to members only

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we can't rewind we've gone too far

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after hours

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we've gone too far

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too far

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we really can't stop

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everybody remembers this video

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it's fucking good

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the main thing I was kind of wondering

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watching it is like

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how the fuck did they animate the milk carton

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oh I thought it was a human in a costume

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it was like for the walking scenes

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and like the movement scenes

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where a person in a costume

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and the rest was probably stop motion

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because you know you have the change of faces and whatever to me it looks like a guy in the suit but

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i couldn't find any actual answers on how they did it online so i'm like it's a total guess so i don't

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know if there's like a combination of different things like there's a there might be a wee robot

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milk carton or a puppet a puppet milk carton or something and they've got other shots of a guy in

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a suit i couldn't find anything so yeah it's fucking fucking impressive it's good i guess i'll give it

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If there's anyone, I don't know who hasn't seen the video, basically, this world seems

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to be full of sentient food containers and milk curtains and bottles and stuff like that.

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Instantly, my brain goes to what are the rules of this world?

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Like, is every container sentient?

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Like, is your partner talking to you as you're cooking it?

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Well, like, what's the rules here?

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Like the shit toy story?

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The contents of your fridge is just alive all day.

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None of the humans seem fazed by it though.

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So I don't know if they know that all their stuff is alive.

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I always got reactions at the time that I genuinely thought that the humans didn't quite realise,

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with a few exceptions of Big Susie and the motorcycle guy.

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It didn't seem like, you know, the love interest that we'll speak about briefly, shortly, briefly,

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as brief as their love for each other.

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She was tapped on by a giant human.

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It didn't seem malicious, if that made sense.

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It felt accidental.

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oh, the humans just don't know this.

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Because, you know, Toy Story,

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maybe the motorcyclist is behind the motorcycle helmet.

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It's anthropomorphic something, if we don't know.

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Maybe he just wanted the milk carton.

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He wasn't actually picking them up.

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He was just like, oh, fuck, free milk.

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But he waves at him on the way back.

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Big Susie Dove

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Toy Story Rules

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which is probably

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just to explain what

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what we're talking about

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the milk carton

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as like a missing

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It was quite different.

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He had it on his bike and he's walking around,

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making its hatred of humanity known.

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So it basically has his face as a missing person,

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which is something that has probably not been relevant since the 80s,

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but you know, everybody gets that.

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We see a shot of his family.

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I presume his sister, though his sister looks about 27.

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I don't know why she's in pigtails, but I presume that she's supposed to look younger.

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And she actually is, and his parents are just worrying over this.

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We get the point of like, oh, this is like a missing person.

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Where is that person?

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When I watched it initially, I thought he looked...

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So when you're nine, everyone that is older than 10 looks older.

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I thought like, oh, he's probably a teen or something like this.

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And when I look at them, I'm like, all those people in their 20s,

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why is there a milk carton missing person on it?

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That was for children specifically, I think, probably.

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Maybe not. Anyway, so Miyuki comes to life and goes on a missing person mission to find Graham

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and goes through different stages of life, I guess, and loss and depression. And again,

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he just finds Graham in the garage where he plays with his shitty band playing the shitty song. And

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he goes, oh shit, my family doesn't know that I'm missing, although it must have been for long enough

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for them to put my face on the box.

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Shit, I need to go home.

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I do have a question for Neo,

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considering that he's...

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I know we can see this,

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I'm currently holding the mic

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like an actual microphone.

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Yeah, so I'm just going to interview Neo now.

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Considering that you're usually a bit of an outlier

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when it comes to knowing the music we're discussed,

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when was the first time you heard the song

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slash watch the video?

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No, I don't have the honest answer.

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Was it last night?

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No, a couple of nights ago, whatever.

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Because in 1999, I didn't have a computer.

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I wasn't on the internet.

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I was nine.

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I don't think I've ever seen this before.

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I'll be honest with you.

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What?

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And as a fan of Britpop, you know, Oasis, Coldplay, The Cooks, I just miss Blur, unfortunately.

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So I don't know much about them.

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I know that one song that everyone knows, Song 2.

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Usually when Nelly takes the piss out of you for not seeing stuff,

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I'm kind of like, ah, you know, you can miss stuff.

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But really? This one?

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I don't think I ever have.

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And I don't know why.

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Well, we have a fresh perspective somehow.

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So what did you think of this hot, fresh new music video?

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I have a hot, fresh new music video.

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I have a habit of things we look at.

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I often look at them, you know, from a today's perspective.

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And this is another one of those examples that it feels more modern than it ought to be.

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It doesn't feel like an old video.

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It's original.

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It's fun.

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It's not boring.

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It's a great concept for a video in general.

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Just overall, the concept I'm totally on board with.

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It's like your classic fish out of water film where, you know, the country boy goes to the big city for the first time.

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And he learns lots of lessons about life, except it stars a milk carton.

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And I'm like, yes.

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I did remember seeing that video when, I don't know if it came out, but it would have been around 1999 probably.

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And I found it very depressing, which is a very weird thought to have for like an eight, nine-year-old who's seen it for the first time.

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Not confused, but annoyed at it because I thought it wasn't, in my critique, views of nine-year-olds.

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I understood what they were going for.

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Like I didn't understand the alcoholism part, but I understood the lost person and this milk carton going on a journey.

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Because it's a very, very simple video anyway.

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There's nothing particularly difficult about what they're doing.

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I just kept thinking like, man, they could have done it a bit less on the nose.

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Nine-year-old me, which I remember being annoyed.

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What did you think was too on the nose about?

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It was just very obvious.

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It was very simplistic.

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it's like a cartoon

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but it doesn't go beyond that

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in terms of the actual content

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and I still agree with nine year old me

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by this point I was obviously very

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exquisite and had great taste

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so like my music videos

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have to be a bit more refined

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have a bit more

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you shouldn't say choir

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I want to use

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my three brain cells

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that I have at age nine

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to use them a bit more

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I think I disagree with nine year old Naila

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there where i think the simplicity is one of the good things about it it's i didn't really i didn't

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really clock that is actually quite sad until you said though because i'm an idiot and my brain was

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just there's a happy dancing milk corn so yeah i never really clocked yeah it's actually kind of a

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story when you think about it but he gets he you know he comes back gets the guy back yeah milky

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completes his mission he learns a few things along the way well i think the one thing that was confused

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as a nine-year-old and i'm still confused as a three-year-old is how long was the guy yeah just

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in general, how long has this guy gone for?

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Yeah, I bet.

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He's just been in this basement with his shit band

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playing this shit music for like, what, months?

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And not even for saying he was like,

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oh shit, I should probably call my family.

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And it's done the context of like,

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oh, our co-coclism takes you away from it.

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But if you're going to do this,

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then do it a bit obvious when you,

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or like in a different way.

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Like, phones existed in 99.

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Maybe it's one of those things where he ran away

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to follow his dream of being in a Britpop band

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and he just kind of got so caught up in that

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he forgot about his family

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and it took the brave Milky to come wake him up.

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Wake up Sheepo.

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I don't know why I said that.

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Sheepo being blur.

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Yeah, he was so caught up in chasing his dreams

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he forgot about what really mattered

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and it took a milk carton to remind him.

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That it didn't take long much, did it?

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Yeah.

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It was right there.

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It was like, it wasn't the subcontext,

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it was the context.

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The door is full of their language

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There's wisdom that you're sure

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Till the words start stirring

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And you can't find the door

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So can you come the MTV

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He's the week

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I've seen so much

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I'm going blind

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No, I just wanted to bring to one of the later thoughts I had.

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And I want to hear your thoughts about it.

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The video gave me very strong Black Hole Sun vibes in terms of the video.

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Obviously differently made in different contexts, but very similar color palettes and shots of

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people and like kind of like the overreactions of people and faces they make and just gesturing

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and all of that.

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Man, this is like the either less depressing or more depressing,

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depending how you want to look at it, version of Black Hole Sun.

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Yeah, I never really clocked it before you said it,

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but it's like, but yeah, it has a similar thing

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where all the human characters are all quite,

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apart from maybe the family,

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but all the human characters are quite exaggerated

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and, you know, kind of chewing the scenery a bit.

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Lots of weird angle shots,

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but I guess that's kind of the point of view of Milky,

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especially Big Susie.

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She's quite a Black Hole Sun-y, actually.

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Yeah.

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If you haven't seen the video,

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Milky finds a business card for Big Susie.

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The business card says that Susie can bring all your dreams come true

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or something like that.

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So Neo, when there's a card like this, she's pissed.

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So she doesn't milk Milky?

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Oh, God.

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I think she didn't do her job, did she?

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She's not into milk.

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Should we dive into what you're thinking was there

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or should we just leave that?

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Up to use of my drug-induced...

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I'm sorry, when I say, dear listeners, when I say drugs in use,

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they mean that I have colds.

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And I might have overdosed and passed it a more.

354
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No, no.

355
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I've been watching Breaking Bad.

356
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And Nellie, you're high on me.

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You're exactly the way they get on in that show.

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God damn it, I've been told.

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I could so easily ruin your career right now, Nellie.

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But yeah, okay.

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The point of that whole conversation came from...

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No, I mean, I can elaborate, but I think it might be...

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I don't know if it would be funny or more frustrating if I just run the milk come jog to the ground

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without any understanding what I'm talking about.

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It needs the context of our conversation last night, which we don't have.

366
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Well, the context is that what if they were born this way, meaning that they reproduce somehow.

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So how do they reproduce?

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And again, paracetamol, a lot of it, made me...

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wipes a bit of like the whatever milk is in his mouth and picks the box.

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My mind went where I see the more induced minds go sometimes,

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which is complete nonsense.

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I'm like completely lost it.

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And I started thinking about what they reproduce the way,

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because it's milk, so it's dairy, so it's mammals.

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So the way that mammals reproduce is...

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When a mummy and a daddy mama love each other very much.

377
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Exactly. They do special hugs.

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Because of my point that basically the whole milk content is out of reproduced, which led to milk.

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I regret nothing. Well, I regret a lot of things, but definitely not this.

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I will park this and go and grab Scott to hear his thoughts on milk.

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Please stand by. You won't believe this one weird trick.

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I want to ask you from a scientific point of view.

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Okay.

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Scientific point of view, it's milk on.

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The culture, the live culture in the milk

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has clearly just, you know, gone off the rails now.

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It's no longer just some little microbiome.

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It's fully evolved into a complex organism.

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So basically the good bacteria has turned into sentient bacteria.

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Yes, and we no longer know if it's good bacteria or not

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because it has its own will.

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It could be bad bacteria now.

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Who knows?

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It could be complex moral bacteria.

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I'm not clear on how the actual leg movements and stuff would work.

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Oh, it just, you imagine like it's some kind of slime mold fungal thing

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that has full control over like different appendages

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and it's just some giant colony organism,

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which essentially all organisms are anyway.

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We're just colonies of cells and don't worry about that

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and don't let it keep you awake at night.

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Oh, you haven't thought the bulk of milk comes here.

403
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

404
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This is where milk come came from.

405
00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:57,080
Okay, so clearly, clearly it's trying to spread the colony to other colonies now.

406
00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,200
Yeah, that's how that works.

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It's part of its natural life cycle.

408
00:19:02,110 --> 00:19:03,980
Yeah, it's his budding phase.

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It's just letting off some spores

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and those are going to turn into new milk people.

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Good to know.

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They might need a host, they might not.

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Who knows?

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That's for you to find out

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if you're willing to take some of the milk come.

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00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:19,800
Maybe it's like spreading from sentient milk carton

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to like normal milk carton.

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The normal milk carton becomes a sentient milk carton.

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00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,040
That's just like flower phase.

420
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It's a normal milk carton.

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And then it needs time to like grow arms and legs.

422
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:31,540
And eventually it stands up.

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It's like, I'm ready to go now.

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00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:35,560
It's kind of like halfway between the thing and fucking the last one.

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00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:36,280
Yeah, it is.

426
00:19:37,740 --> 00:19:37,880
Yeah.

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It's just like, is that a milk corn?

428
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Or is that a thing that is going to come alive?

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Could be both.

430
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All right, cool.

431
00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:45,780
Have fun, guys.

432
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Oh, no, he's leaving.

433
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:47,980
Come back.

434
00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:49,060
Come back, T-shirt.

435
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,960
That was Scott from Sentient Milk Corner.

436
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I'm surprised that he actually had a full

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own like full growth

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like theory and like knowledge

439
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on how would that work

440
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he always does he's like

441
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:07,980
he's reliable

442
00:20:09,580 --> 00:20:11,100
yes he's a reliable

443
00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:12,840
source of scientific information

444
00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:13,860
we like Scott

445
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,780
Milk Heaven how does that work in terms of religion

446
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,800
Milk Heaven well I mean

447
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they're taking quite a

448
00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:23,060
traditional Christian approach where you know

449
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,380
the Milky Dyes and you know

450
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,840
is it turns into an angel, which is great, which is lovely, which is actually quite sweet.

451
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Brings this depressing video to a nice sort of closure.

452
00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,300
Also, how does that work in terms of deities?

453
00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:41,420
Like, do they see, is Milk God a milk box as well?

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Or is it just the God God?

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Milk is a white, off-white colored liquid.

456
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And the video shows us going into the white.

457
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So milk's going back to where milk belongs.

458
00:20:57,620 --> 00:20:59,980
Maybe it's just the same for all creatures,

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be the human, animal or milk carton.

460
00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:14,600
Okay, final points.

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David, go.

462
00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:18,960
We've devined deeper into this video

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than I've ever really thought about it before.

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I previously just thought of it, of the music video with the happy little milk carton, but

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there's more to it than that.

466
00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:29,140
So, you know, nothing's ever as simple as it seems.

467
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,140
Favourite and worst parts, the happy little milk carton again.

468
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,580
And the worst part is people being mean to the happy little milk carton.

469
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Fuck those people.

470
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:36,940
Don't be that guy.

471
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Best parts was, I like when I got on the motorbike.

472
00:21:40,970 --> 00:21:41,560
That was fun.

473
00:21:41,780 --> 00:21:44,440
I mean, how does a milk carton stay on the back of a motorcycle?

474
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,140
That pushes it too far for me.

475
00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:48,360
That has hands.

476
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,240
That's tiny hands.

477
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Little hands, little hands.

478
00:21:51,340 --> 00:21:52,580
No, a little hand doesn't work like that.

479
00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:53,560
How would you know?

480
00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:55,900
Well, actually, he has the lactose intolerant in the room.

481
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,440
Yeah, I don't know a thing about him, though.

482
00:21:59,340 --> 00:22:02,080
And for a lesson as a home, Neil has gigantic hands.

483
00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,040
He doesn't know how it feels to have small hands.

484
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:09,460
And I guess, worst part...

485
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Twice the size.

486
00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:11,700
Twice the size.

487
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Of a normal human being.

488
00:22:13,210 --> 00:22:14,080
Yeah, twice the size.

489
00:22:14,130 --> 00:22:15,260
We're built differently in Ireland.

490
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worst part. I didn't

491
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like the way... What's

492
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,280
the lead singer Blair called?

493
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Damon

494
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Amoncia. Why not?

495
00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:29,720
The way he drinks his milk. That seems

496
00:22:29,900 --> 00:22:31,760
like he just murdered his

497
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milk and didn't even look at

498
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it. He didn't even know what he was drinking.

499
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,520
He's not seen a safety

500
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520
video about don't drink random

501
00:22:39,820 --> 00:22:41,360
liquids. Even if you're thirsty, it could be acid.

502
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,880
He just drinks his milk.

503
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:45,700
I thought that was a bit odd. He basically just

504
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,760
found a random carton of milk on the street

505
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well on the window

506
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he didn't check the date

507
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he just fucking went for it

508
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down for milky

509
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doesn't like that

510
00:22:53,020 --> 00:22:53,560
doesn't like that

511
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he could have

512
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he could have paid more attention

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to his mil

514
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so my final point

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the video is very well done

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and has an original idea

517
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,080
regardless of what

518
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:04,980
nine year old me thought

519
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,720
it's cool

520
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,280
it's well done

521
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,820
it has really interesting shots

522
00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:10,740
very competently made

523
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,620
favourite part

524
00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:12,460
the video reminded me

525
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:13,100
to text my mum

526
00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:14,160
which I did

527
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,440
and then she responded

528
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,620
sending me pictures

529
00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:17,740
of her getting

530
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:22,000
being on wine tasting in somewhere in Czech Republic with her friends.

531
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,760
So there you go.

532
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,800
And the worst part is...

533
00:23:25,380 --> 00:23:26,300
Sorry, I'm just taking off my notes.

534
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,940
Worst part is milk, apparently, according to my paracetamol-ridden brain.

535
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,080
No, actually, the worst part is a bit pop in general.

536
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,560
Just put it to rest.

537
00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:38,700
Set it on fire.

538
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:39,620
It's 24.

539
00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:41,600
There's better music out there.

540
00:23:41,860 --> 00:23:44,400
Well, there was better music in 99 as well, but definitely now.

541
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:45,460
So sorry, y'all.

542
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,540
Take a look at the show notes for links to today's video.

543
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,520
links to Instagram

544
00:23:49,180 --> 00:23:49,760
not Twitter anymore

545
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,120
because Elon Musk is a cunt

546
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,720
also email

547
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:52,760
gone2farcast

548
00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:53,520
at gmail.com

549
00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:54,640
we'd love to hear your thoughts

550
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,580
and any recommendations

551
00:23:55,780 --> 00:23:56,060
for videos

552
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:57,920
if you're enjoying the podcast

553
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,820
please leave us a review

554
00:23:58,940 --> 00:23:59,720
in Apple Podcasts

555
00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:59,900
Spotify

556
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,400
or your podcast player

557
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,380
of choice

558
00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:04,160
we did one

559
00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:04,520
yeah

560
00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:05,520
you may have noticed

561
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,660
that episode releases

562
00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:08,060
are sporadic as fuck

563
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,780
but we are still

564
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,680
doing them occasionally

565
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,280
but just

566
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,800
adult life is difficult

567
00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:13,020
and also you don't pay us

568
00:24:13,020 --> 00:24:13,580
so fuck you

569
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:14,820
we get to do whatever you want

570
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,240
bye

571
00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:16,640
bye

572
00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:17,660
bye

573
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,860
Wave at the microphone.

574
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,400
Thanks, your parents.

