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You know when you get the Google suggestions?

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Did you go on DeviantArt again?

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Yes.

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Hello and welcome to We Can't Rewind, We've Gone Too Far,

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a podcast where Scotsman, an Irishman, and a Bulgarian

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discuss the worst, silliest, and weirdest as fuck music videos.

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Hi, I'm Nelly.

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Hi, I'm Dave.

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Hi, I'm Neil.

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Why was there a massive pause before you introduced yourself?

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Because I had to check which order we were.

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I forgot how to read briefly.

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Oh, okay.

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That happens to the best of us, it's fine.

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This month, we are discussing the absolutely fantastic and fabulous 1994 synth-pop ballad hit

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Always By Erasure, also known as the Robot Unicorn Attack Song.

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Directed by Dutch French filmmaker Jan Coonan, the video features lead singer Andy Bell and

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an unnamed woman in a Chinese scroll painting inspired background, where they play music,

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sing and fight a giant monster dragon.

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This video is definitely something that couldn't be pulled off successfully by many bands, but

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Razor are definitely in the top 3, which I think should end them a little respect.

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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and a tiny bit of cultural appreciation slash appropriation can do.

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There we're kind of like, I guess,

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relatively level ground here,

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because I don't have any particular background

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slash history with the video, which is a good start.

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So what were your initial thoughts when you watched it?

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It's quite mad.

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Yeah, it just reminded me of what's to come.

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It's quite a fitting song,

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because it's summer whenever the snow goes away,

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and then it's winter whenever the snow is back.

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We're recording this at the end of the summer, end of August.

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Yeah, I don't look forward to a cold house, let's put it that way.

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But yeah, I mean, it is.

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It's quite a charming video.

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Unlike most stuff that we tend to review on here, it's actually good fun.

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And you don't really, I don't know, it doesn't offend me, put it that way.

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I don't remember hearing this anywhere.

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Usually, you know, when you hear a song, it sticks in your head,

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Even if you don't like it.

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But this one just, no.

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The video has a good opening five seconds

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because it looks like you're looking at some sort of ancient postcard sort of thing.

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A little bolt of energy.

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And then your man, Andy Bell, just teleports into this snow globe looking place.

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Attention grabbing is a very good way just to describe the whole video.

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It's a very, it's a relatively long video, but it's not really boring.

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There's always something happening.

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So he comes in, then he starts, they unfreeze this frozen lassie.

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And then adventure ensues.

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Adventure ensues.

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Not immediately, though.

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At the beginning is very...

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They kick about for a bit.

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Yeah, for the top of the song, braiding hairs and shit.

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Yeah, that was one of your notes.

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Casual gal pal night in.

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Very much felt like that.

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I've definitely had nights in where we didn't quite braid our hairs.

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But, you know, just kind of chilling, fighting dragons.

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Because initially you think it's going to be the usual sort of romance stuff,

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but as you're watching it, I was getting kind of a...

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He's some sort of teleporting man-servant,

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goes around helping Nobility with their hair and gardens and stuff.

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He does have that look about him.

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He doesn't look like he's a king or a prince

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or, you know, anyone in a great noble role.

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He looks a bit ordinary.

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So I want to say that when the master appears,

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he first does a very, like,

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I'm very scared and kind of, like,

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curls up into her as opposed to, like,

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being very immediately, like,

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I'm going to protect you or something.

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Which is a fun point, I guess.

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But yeah, I guess what you both mean.

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I guess I never really looked at it that way.

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I genuinely thought that it was supposed to be romantic,

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but kind of almost like queen-queen, nudge-nudge way of romantic,

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because I'm fairly certain Andy Bell was out by then.

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Also, it's a very, very comfy video,

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so I don't know if anyone watched this and thought,

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oh, yes, he's incredibly straight.

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I don't know if it's just because, obviously, we already know,

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but you don't get the impression he's trying to get his hole better that way.

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He just wants to comb in the hair.

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It's good hair.

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Having a nice night in

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and then this fucking dragon monster appears.

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Is it actually a dragon?

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Or is it...

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I'm guessing it's some ancient Chinese thing.

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Maybe we should look this up.

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We should probably look this up.

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Okay, pause.

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By the way, Wikipedia said it's a dark dragon-like creature.

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It's interesting, if you ever read things about where all the monsters and Pokemon and all that stuff come from,

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they always seem to be based on some ancient Japanese in that case.

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What's the word I'm looking for? Mythic?

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Folklore.

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Aye, folklore.

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So it seems like, obviously this probably wasn't made by actual Chinese people,

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but it's probably kind of drawn from folklore somewhere.

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Do we know that the director is a Dutch French guy?

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Yeah, we mentioned this earlier.

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Yes, we did.

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Obviously, there's a lot of appreciation towards the culture, but also, you know, I guess it

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worked in the early 90s.

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But nowadays you get like, you know, the woman who is styled to look Asian and her makeup is

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kind of like making her look Asian.

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And I'm not 100% sure whether the actual actress slash model slash whoever she is.

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By the way, just a note, absolutely no record who this woman is.

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Nobody.

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There's just no mention of her name.

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And I was looking for so hard and so long.

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Just a random person, they picked up on the street or something.

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I'm sure that she was probably a model.

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I was trying to figure out if she was actually Asian, but I'm not.

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I don't know.

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I don't think so.

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Whenever they give a close-up of her face, it looks like her makeup is very obvious.

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As in what they were doing with her makeup.

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I don't think she was Asian.

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I don't want to presume because Jamie

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don't know but it kind of

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just felt like oh I can get away with

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it's 94 nobody thinks about

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it. You know what's

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funny on IMDB

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they have you know directed by

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they have casts

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you know the music department

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and it's just Andy Bell and Vince

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Clark and there's no mention of

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this woman. The guy

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by Erasure he's in a picture

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at the end and he gets a credit

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one doesn't it doesn't make any sense the only thing i found was a very long article by some guy

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who was explaining in excruciating detail about the video like because in what we're doing now

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but the difference is he absolutely hated it and kept saying how it's bad and it doesn't stand the

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taste of time and it's bad cgi and i'm like where do you even see the cgi there's no cgi in there it's

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all physical effects but yeah this guy absolutely hated the video and saying how bad it is and i'm

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like mate what kind of videos do you watch he's obviously not went as far down the rabbit hole as

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we have it's well made i think obviously it looks all the time but i think it's well made for what

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it is and evson evson works you know it's clearly professional people made the sets made the costumes

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made the big monster thingy the snowball to me my technical eye sees that this was shot on like a

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theater stage um because the lighting's really theatrical lots of flashing and you know it changes

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from daytime to darkness

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whenever the dragon comes on.

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I think that adds to the charm.

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Judging just by the opening couple of shots,

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it's like they're in a postcard, basically.

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You know, so it's like,

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I think it feels right for it

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to be a little bit theatrical.

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I mean, there's several scenes

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where like the background, the set,

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what's that word?

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Pavilion, I guess.

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It literally shakes when they touch it.

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I just wonder whether that was on purpose or not.

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I wonder whether they just decided,

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well, we don't have the money,

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So we may as well completely embrace the schlock and go for it.

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But it kind of reminds me if you've ever seen,

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like, don't really know what the word for this is,

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but like theatrical shows where it's not really talking so much.

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It's more kind of a visual performance

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where it's just people kind of doing shit at each other.

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It reminds me of that, if that makes any sense.

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I want to say panto, but you don't mean panto, do you?

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No, not panto.

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No, like wanky physical theatre sort of stuff,

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which I have seen in the past and it feels like this.

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Like kind of a theater of shadows kind of thing.

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Is that what you mean?

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Something like that.

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I mean, I think we're probably overthinking this.

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I don't think even Dave put that much thought into it.

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Yeah.

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Well, fair enough.

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Beyond making it look aesthetic.

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Although we do have to commend the fact that the video has nothing to do with the song itself.

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Well, does it?

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It does a bit.

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Because kicking about with this lassie in this sort of little bit of purgatory that they seem

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to be living in.

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And they'll always be together in this little garden.

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That's what I was getting from it.

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Why purgatory?

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I don't know.

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Just not purgatory.

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More like just I keep coming back to being like a postcard or a snow globe.

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It's like they've been trapped there by some magical being.

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And this is just their life now.

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But they're kind of happy to be together.

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When you actually explain like that to me, it is kind of like a nightmare.

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You're in that one place.

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And maybe they're in limbo and they're repeating themselves in an endless time.

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And keep getting frozen and thawed.

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Kind of like the way the seasons come and go.

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earth spins and seasons come and go when the earth spins...

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Hold on to the noise, there will be no shame

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Always I wanna be with you and make believe with you

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And live in harmony, harmony, oh love

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Always I wanna be with you and make believe with you

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And live in harmony, harmony all over

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Seasons go and go and the earth spins

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And then the seasons...

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Oh, sorry.

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Got stuck on a lip there.

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Indeed.

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You can play a little respect over this

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and apart from listening, it totally works.

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Did you try this?

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Yes.

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Yeah, I did.

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Yeah, because before the show,

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the show, the podcast,

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Before the show, guys,

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I was watching this and it all played on to respect

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and I was like I wonder if this would work over the other video and I put it on and apart from

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the lip syncing being weird it actually kind of does work because like the monster comes down when

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it's when it's like show their respect and the monster's like so yeah I recommend the listeners

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try this erasure video mashup the erasure version of watching um dark side of the moon while sorry

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playing dark side of the moon while watching the wizard of Oz yeah it's not quite that good but

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It does work.

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It's better.

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Come on, it's better.

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What was the monster trying to achieve?

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That was a question I had.

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Or was he just being a generally mischievous spirit?

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Maybe he just wanted to be part of the party.

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They just were like, no, fuck you, you know.

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You know, Awa Pao, go away, you monster.

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You keep coming in and snowballing everyone a little bit.

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Turning people into ice.

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Wow.

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We're leaving this inside.

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That was a party I don't want to be part of.

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Maybe the gym wants to be part of it.

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We've talked about this. No thanks, ancient monster.

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No, no, no, no. That's just your kink, mate. We don't... No, no. Stop snowballing.

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You've told the new save, babe. This is what you were thinking about while you were watching us videos.

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Was that a Freudian slip?

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When you say one thing, but you actually meant getting snowballed by a giant monster.

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Unfortunately, that video probably exists on the internet, but let's not worry about that.

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But yeah, so apart from snowballing, what is the monster trying to achieve?

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I was wondering whether the characters, they're actually the bad guys

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because they completely judge the monster based on its appearance.

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It's actually a good monster and just want to be part of the party

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and want to be one of the pals.

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And they're like, no, fuck you.

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Yeah, they're like the cool kids kicking about the garden.

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You can't sit on our table.

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Poor monster just wants to play a board game or something.

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These guys are being dead.

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He's supposed to make a fright, just moved into town.

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Just literally flown into town and they're like, no going.

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They are the monsters all along.

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The crazy backflips.

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Yeah.

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Because they're hilarious.

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They're very obviously done by Andy Bell, clearly, 100%.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He was notorious for his backflips.

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He would backflip on stage all the time.

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He's still doing it.

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Can we just agree that they're completely pointless?

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What is he doing?

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He's doing fucking 10 backflips to get to a bush that's like two and a half meters away from him.

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You can just walk, get some flowers.

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It would have been objectively less effort to walk, but it wouldn't have looked as cool, though.

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Yeah, I mean, you do get those cool like, what the word, kimono, I guess?

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Just kind of like flowing around, floating.

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It's pretty cool.

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If you're potentially stuck in some sort of snow globe postcard for eternity as well, then

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you may as well.

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Get snowballed.

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You may as well do a backflip before you get snowballed and then it'll kill a bit of time.

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We need to put a proper rating on this episode.

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Warning, may contain explicit.

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May?

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Does.

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Does.

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I don't think we've said cunt yet though, so there you go.

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There you go.

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That's covered now.

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explicit tag confirmed

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Neil do you have anything

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to add

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inappropriate to this episode

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now?

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No I'm going to be

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the odd one out here

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and just let you

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get the

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the bad feedback

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emails that we tend

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to get every week

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Neil's just sitting back

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and watching us

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embarrass ourselves

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the Scots and the Bulgarians

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are the worst

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that's my opinion

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as the Irish man

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the editing

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is like

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probably the one thing

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that really worries me

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I was very

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frustrated

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I guess

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by the constant

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for the changos

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and then the

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very harsh cuts

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with those

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Plane's clear is...

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I don't know how you kind of like the light flashes.

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Every cut, it was flash, flash, flash, flash.

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I could imagine that would get a bit exhausting.

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Considering that everything else is quite like,

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it's sluggy but consistent,

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I just didn't quite understand what was this supposed to do

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and why was it there.

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I felt the illusion of the dream was very well captured.

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When it goes from, you know,

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summer to winter, light to dark,

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it felt very...

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It felt like you were in their heads

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and I didn't think that the flashing really took me out of that.

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If anything, it's sort of, I don't know,

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helped with the franticness of their situation

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where they're getting fucked by a big snowman.

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Well, I'll try against snowman, whatever you want to call him.

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I don't know.

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But yeah, I guess the flashing could be distracting,

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but I think, you know, compared to stuff we've seen before,

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this holds up.

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Quality-wise, it's a bit, you know, yeah, it's a bit aged,

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but I think the actual execution was done pretty darn well.

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I think it was pretty good.

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I just wanted to look in there.

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I think they kind of, I don't know what you call it,

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make up special effects on when they're frozen,

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both when she's frozen at the start

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and when they're frozen in the snowball.

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I think it's pretty well done as well.

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Yeah, it's definitely like,

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it kind of goes back to something

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that they've been harping about

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for pretty much every single video

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we've happened this year.

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I understand that CGI technology existed already

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and in some videos was really well done.

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But overall, if you didn't have the money

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and skills to pull it off,

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just done and it wasn't good enough to not just look like it didn't be immediately dated yeah and

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i'm kind of very happy that they did not go down like yeah with a few exceptions with it just like

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here and there they did not go down the route of we're doing this fully cgi because we can or whatever

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they just went for like no we're doing the shorty effects you know it doesn't look convincing it

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doesn't look real but it looks cool physical effects and stuff like you can tell it's not

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it's not real obviously but but it is same time as real if you don't mean it's gonna you can tell

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what i'm trying to say here doesn't do the uncanny valley thing you see it you can see it's not it's

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an effect but you also forgive it pretty quickly i do anyway don't know about everyone but whereas

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when you see some ropey cgi you instantly just go oh that was made in a computer and it takes out of

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the experience i think yeah i mean you get you see the snowballing monster and you don't think

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that's a snowballing monster, you think that's a man in a costume. Because it's consistent

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with the shaky set and the very fake backflips. You know, it's consistent in the shitiness

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and you have to respect that.

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It's a video that grabs your attention straight away and although it's a bit ropey and theatrical,

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I think it works perfectly for what it's trying to do.

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The effects are good.

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Sets are good.

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Costumes are good.

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Big, scary, snowballing monster is good.

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You know, so yeah, I liked it a lot.

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And the song's a bit of a tune as well.

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I had never seen this video before.

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And after the first watch, it had me laughing out loud.

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The premise is utterly ridiculous.

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And it made me feel like the idea was picked out of a hat

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then adapted while on Magic Mushrooms.

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To be honest, I still don't know what's going on,

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but that's no bad thing.

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The video has charm.

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And most importantly, it is fun.

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I absolutely adore the low budget B-movie vibe of the video.

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It is really far from perfect.

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And the acting is kind of high school theater drama club level.

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And the set is literally shaking whenever someone touches it.

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But it's so charming and so comfy and so fun.

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Just you can't fault it.

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And it's a solid B plus for effort for me.

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Favorite part is just the set slash location, whatever you call it in general.

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It feels like you're inside a snow globe, inside a postcards, but with better music.

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Serves the video very well.

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But there is a runner-up, which is at 1 minute 40, where he has just a little float around in the background.

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He kind of just campily floats there for a bit.

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Campily floats.

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Yeah, and nobody really knows why, but if I could float, I would just float about literally as much as I could.

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Would you campily float, though?

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If the mood took me, yeah.

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Worst part, I've not really got any complaints about the video, to be honest.

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But, you know, don't you just hate it when an ancient magical creature

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traps you in a snowball?

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We've all been there, you know.

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That now seems a bit weirder after the whole snowballing thing.

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It's fine, I'm going to leave it in.

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One minute 31 is a creepy back lip into a front lip raise

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followed by a resting bitch face.

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Yeah, it's a little bit strange.

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Definitely recommend checking that out.

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That made me laugh a lot.

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Was that when you'd deliver in the flowers?

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Yes, yes.

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Yeah, right.

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It's proper...

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Yeah, I think it would have been shot in reverse because...

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So it just looks a little bit strange.

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And then the worst part, the worst bits, more of a technical critique.

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I'm not a fan of the Dutch angles in this.

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Felt a bit like I was on a boat.

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Dutch, Dutch, Dutch.

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They hadn't figured out the balance cameras yet at that point.

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The tripods did not exist before 2010.

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Tripods only had two legs.

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Really, really bad system.

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Dual pods, yes.

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Anyway, so, yeah.

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So my fave part is actually my fave and worst parts are basically the same as Neos more or less.

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So my favorite part was just the crazy backflips.

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They never failed to put a smile on my face.

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Putting so much effort into just walking into the nearby bush and picking some flowers.

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You know, just walk to the bush.

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And the worst part is, again, the technical aspect, but not about the Django series,

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but also the constant cuts and flashes that we discussed.

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I understand what Neil was saying earlier when we were discussing it,

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but it still kind of bothers me a bit and it just feels a bit...

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And you need to tune it down a bit, basically.

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But that's it.

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Otherwise, well done, mate.

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It's an eye for me.

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Big old eye.

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Fuck yes.

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Yeah, why not?

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It's an eye for me.

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Does nothing wrong.

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Eye for me as well.

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Nothing wrong, which is a true CEO of approval with our podcast.

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They can put that in their YouTube comment section.

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Always I wanna be with you

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And make believe with you

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And live in harmony, harmony

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Take a look at the show notes for links to today's video, links to Instagram and our social medias.

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Also please email us on gontifarcast at gmail.com.

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If you're enjoying the podcast, please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player of choice.

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Peace, yo.

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And listen to us in October.

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This is a September episode or something.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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See you next time.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Bye.

