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They're in, Billy, they're in Cyrillic.

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They're in Cyrillic, you're Cyrillic.

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Hello and welcome to We Can't Rewind, We've Gone Too Far, a podcast where a Scotsman and

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Irishman and a Bulgarian review the most terrible, silliest and weirdos as fuck music videos.

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Say hello everyone.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Hello.

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I'm with you.

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Take a look at the show notes for links to today's videos, links to Instagram and our email address.

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GoneTooFarCast at gmail.com.

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We'd love to hear your thoughts and any recommendations for videos.

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Because we're running out.

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We're not running out.

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No, we're not. We're totally not.

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We've got another few years of this shit in us.

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How are we doing for those review things?

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I'm scared to look

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Today we're looking at the life and times of

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quintessential 90s alternative music weirdo

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who may or may not be a Scientologist

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the eternal and possibly immortal Beck

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This is everyone's favourite 1993 music video

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Yes, again 1993, our favourite year, Loser

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In the time I'm chimpanzees, I was a monkey.

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Butane in my veins and I'm out to cut the chuggy with the plastic eyeballs.

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Spray paint the vegetables, dog food stalls with the beefcake pantyhose.

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Kill the headlights and put it in neutral.

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Start car flaming with the loser and the cruise control.

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Babies in Reno with the vitamin D.

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Got a couple of couches, sleep on the love seat.

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Someone came saying I'm insane to complain about a shotgun wedding and a stain on my shirt.

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Don't believe everything that you breathe.

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You get a parking violation and a magnet on your sleeve.

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So shave your face with some mates in the dark.

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Saving all your food stamps and running down the trailer park.

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Yo.

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Cut it.

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I didn't realize Beck's a...

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Is he really a Scientologist?

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He can't be.

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Uh, it's...

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No, he's like...

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He's probably a Scientologist, I think.

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But early notice, I think, he came out and said,

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Oh, yeah, I'm a Scientologist.

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like just second generation Scientologist or whatever.

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But then later on, like recently, like I think last year,

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he was like, oh, I was never a Scientologist, I'm Jewish.

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So this is why it may or may not be.

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I presume he might have dabbled in it as younger

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and then he was like, no, fuck this shit or whatever.

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He could have dabbled in something more fun than Scientology, I'm sure.

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Anyway, Neo, history, you go.

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This video was directed by Stephen Haft,

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somewhat of a video film film director but most importantly a friend of Beck. Inspired by the music

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video for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath the video was entirely shot on a 16mm camera full of random

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footage of them and I quote fucking around. The film was done across the whole of California

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including a Santa Monica graveyard. The music video was later referenced in another Beck video

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the one for a 2014 song Heart is a Drum. It includes the Grim Reaper and another version of

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back wearing a white outfit from the loser video.

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This video helms the pantheon of offbeat alternative 90s music videos that include the likes of

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Smashing Pumpkins, Bjork, Radiohead, Blur, The Chemical Brothers, Oasis, Beastie Boys,

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etc etc etc.

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The 90s were definitely the peak of bizarre videos of indie darlings and all of us who ever

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worked on short films were definitely better for it.

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There's no way to really describe the video beyond things happen and also cough in stop

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motion.

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Actors that appear in the video include Beck, Beck with the guitar, Beck with the featherhead gear,

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at least one stone guy, probably possibly all of them, Dancing Ladies in Negative,

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the Grim Reaper, Beck with the leaf blower. So let's talk about it.

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I've seen it many times, but I was kind of watching it initially going,

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how the fuck are we going to talk about this? But I think every time I watch it,

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I'm actually kind of more interested about what's going on.

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it's kind of the case of those videos where you don't talk probably directly about what's happening

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rather just talk around it yeah i am i don't know but i couldn't really find like a correlation of

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anything it just seemed to be uh more of a trippy montage maybe maybe it's like you know that's what

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beck seen his early career maybe that's what he's sort of seen it reflected as you know from other

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people but it just seemed like he was having a bit of fun yeah i think that was the point he was

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making in the things that he at least i read in the wikipedia page where he was basically literally

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fucking around which is not very difficult to guess it sounds like like the actual song itself

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came from that as well where it was just improvised at one day and it wasn't really particularly meant

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to say and i think i think the video the video kind of reflects that i guess would it would have

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been a bit offensive if anyone spent more than a day on the video and the song considering the

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actual qualities of both i know we like loser is probably his most famous song without he's anything

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but one hit wonder

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but honestly I would have been

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surprised as he'd been like oh yeah no I spent

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like two months writing it and

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however days with the producer in the studio

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it's literally like

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okay got stoned maybe

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got drunk potentially and I'm just gonna

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wrap her up about things

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well to quote the Wikipedia

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the source of all knowledge on the internet he was saying

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it was accidental but it was something that

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I had been working towards for a long time

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which I think does happen

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can I have something in your head sort of vague idea

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and then you actually go do it

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and sometimes something good comes out.

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What was the idea behind that?

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It's just things happening.

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Not even happening, just things.

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paraphrasing because I can't find it,

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but it's basically he was doing gigs at coffee shops

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and bars and stuff like that.

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People were just kind of ignoring him.

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So he would start improvising sort of funny shit

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just to kind of test and see if people were listening.

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And I think that led to the song,

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which explains a lot of the random shit

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that is said lyric wise.

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That's an interesting origin story of Beck to be honest

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considering the quality of music he comes out today

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I'm quite surprised to hear that he was not very successful.

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I think he was a finger right somewhere

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that he was not necessarily homeless

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but a bit like car strapped at the beginning

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and just kind of improvising everything.

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So he was working minimum wage job at the time

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to survive and doing the music at the same time.

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That sounds familiar.

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He must be seen as a modern hero then.

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There's something to look towards.

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Got to achieve his dreams in a way.

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I mean, not the best circumstances, but he still got there.

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Considering the type of music he does today, nowadays,

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I would not be able to draw a direct line between Loser

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and the songs that he did at the time,

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like Sex Loss and Beer Cans or whatever,

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and the stuff that he does nowadays.

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They just are completely different types of music.

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I've not really listened to much Beck stuff apart from this,

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so I can't really speak to that.

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Although I'm going to after this podcast.

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No, I'd really recommend his stuff.

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They're really, really good.

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Especially this side of the century.

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So let's have a discussion.

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If we were back and were given, I believe, the budget was $300 in 1993 money.

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And we had to come up with whatever the fucking bullshit we wanted to.

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What stuff would we have put in our loser video to show that we are, in fact, losers?

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I would like something related to farming.

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Farming.

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Farming.

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why farming?

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I don't know

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it's a dirty job

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isn't it

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you know

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shoveling stuff

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all that

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maybe you should have

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like a

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stop motion tractor

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walking behind you

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sounds like a lot

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of money Nelly

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does it all stretch

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a stop motion

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shovel

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how much does

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a shovel cost?

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I can get one

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pretty cheap on eBay

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like one for the

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neighbour's garden

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you need to steal one

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yeah

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in fact there you go

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that's it

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a video clip of you

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stealing a shovel

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It'll be random, yes.

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And then later on in the video,

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you see the shovel doing stop-motion shit,

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so people know that's why you stole it.

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Yeah, and there'll be a very angry farmer

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who is washing your windows with blood, I guess.

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Random thing I'd put in if I was to show

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how much of a loser is it.

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Probably back to when I was a teenager,

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I'd be standing outside the job centre

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with my little book full of jobs

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that I pretended to apply for.

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That'd be a good one.

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I did apply for some of them

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it's the saddest thing you said

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well you know

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I got there eventually I guess

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I can picture David, sorry I know this is maybe a tangent

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but I can picture them reading that

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and going and saying ah yes Mr. David

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that's astronauts

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that's very very interesting

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oh it's a shame you didn't get it though

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you should have seen their face

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when they said

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what was it you studied at college

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or what are you going to study at college

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probably at the time. It was just like, oh,

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same production, and just the look of...

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Okay, so we've got

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a place at Argos.

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And I did get

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that job. I did work at Argos.

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There's another one. Me working at Argos and hating

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every fucking second of it. That'd be another one.

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Are we allowed to say this? Are we going to get sued by

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Argos for doing bad promotion

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of the employment or something?

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Fuck Argos. They paid on time, I guess.

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That's the only next thing I'll say about them.

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That's not much.

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It's not little.

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Nelly, what's your loser clip thing?

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My loser clip will probably be watching the video for loser and trying to emulate Beck.

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Rather like 16 year old me watching the loser video and trying to emulate Beck.

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Down to the randomness of him jumping around and wearing a headgear.

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Just that, like, just me, like, on my sofa,

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watching that video, being dressed like big.

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Like when it has the Indian headdress on,

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you're just kind of tentatively putting one on as well.

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Well, maybe, like...

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Is this racist? Don't know.

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Maybe it would be, like, reluctantly.

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Just be like, hmm, it's cultural appropriation, maybe?

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But I'm in 2006, Bulgarian, no one cares.

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Question mark?

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I think we've got a solid video there.

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Yeah, that would be a video of a video.

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I've got the video going on a loop and there's a picture of him

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jumping over a mound of dirt

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or something like that. I'm pretty sure a video

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does exist of me doing that exact same thing.

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Probably all of us have done that.

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It was a big pile of stones.

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So that could go in there as well.

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We've nearly got a full video.

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So would you just do a shot by shot

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recreation of his video, but

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set in a fucking

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I don't know, Kilmarnock

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somewhere. I think that's like a looser

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a looser interpretation.

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Just us being losers. We are losers

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so that's fine. Well we are doing a podcast

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so yeah.

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We are losers. Cool people don't do podcasts.

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Cool people post inspirational

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posters on Instagram.

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They face tune.

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They face tune their friends.

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Cool people TikTok nowadays

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I believe. Fine. Go into

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forecast on TikTok at

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I don't know how TikTok works. We're not having a TikTok

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Dave. No we're not doing this.

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The Chinese government does not need to know about this podcast.

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They already have enough on you.

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Yeah.

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So let's get back to

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favourite big outfit.

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There's quite a lot to choose from there.

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With astronauts, that's a classic, obviously.

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Native American headdress thing.

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There's one where he's in a white suit

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with a scarf and a hat

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so that's clearly the winter

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or summer. He's dancing in the dust.

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Yeah, that's a good look.

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I think there's maybe the same suit,

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but I think there is a shot where he's dressed kind of like a cowboy.

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Like a sort of

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hipster slacker cowboy.

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Yeah, same suit.

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I'll probably go for the outfit where the one where he's standing in front of that shop

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where he's just wearing a hat and blue sunglasses.

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And he looks like such a dog.

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I kind of love it.

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It's just, I think of all the outfits he's wearing in the video,

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that one is the most, like, loser-like for me.

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It's kind of on point.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, I've just rolled to that.

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That is a good one.

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Probably everyone's first impression of the video,

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because it's at the start of the video,

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is when it zooms into him walking along,

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his face is censored out,

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and then he kind of lifts the sort of sensor blur off.

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I always liked that.

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I was like, that's a cool effect, blah, blah, blah,

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and it gets your attention and stuff like that.

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But thanks to a YouTube comment slash also Neely,

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found out something interesting.

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Do you want to elaborate?

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Who, me?

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You posted a comment in the notes.

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Why would I have to talk about it?

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Well, you confirmed it, but okay.

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The comment from someone on YouTube,

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I won't say their name because it's their real name,

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but I can look at it on the video.

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Fun fact, in the beginning, he has a blur over his head.

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Apparently because he's wearing a Stormtrooper helmet,

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he could have gotten sued for it, I guess.

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So they had to blur it out.

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Blur it while he's wearing a Stormtrooper helmet

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and then a bunch of emojis.

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The emojis are very important, obviously.

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And yeah, that makes sense.

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A slight moment of sort of an accident

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or a negative thing actually turns into something cool

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because I always liked that.

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And it turns out it was totally not deliberate.

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Although I was thinking,

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how are we going to confirm this YouTube comment?

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And then I don't know.

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Now that I think about it,

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I wonder whether I've just read this and I imagined it or I actually watched it because I definitely

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remember seeing this as a kid and then I remember years later when I watched it again like on YouTube

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or whatever it was blurred and I was obviously I knew it was Stormtrooper helmet so I was like oh

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that makes sense because they can't afford Disney money or whatever but I I hope I'm not making this

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up I'm fairly certain I've seen it if you google back Stormtrooper there's lots of blurry photos of

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it so i mean so i mean there's some truth to that even if you look at the video yeah it looks like a

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stormtrooper of the blur of a stormtrooper yeah you obviously you don't really know that till you

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know it but i think i buy this i buy this conspiracy theory i definitely heard of that before but i also

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had seen it i think i don't know i think i've seen it i'm pretty sure it was now you're making my head

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hurt i like to think that bulgaria just gives that few fucks about copyright that they just put it on

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wholesale. Uncensored. Uncensored.

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The true edition, only

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available in Nellie's house when she was a kid.

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When I was four. Yeah.

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Considering that quite a few episodes ago

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actually, we watched

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Sledgehammer. What do you make

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of the coffin stop motion? Oh, you know

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it's a bit of a time, isn't it?

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It's a bit shit, but you know what? It's a little

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charm. Yeah.

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It's quite brave considering it was on

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film. You know, I think that gives

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some credit, I think.

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No one has a charm too. Towards the end there's

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just a shot of the coffin just sort of sliding

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towards the shop and just for some reason

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that makes me laugh because it just looks like the coffin

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is sneaking up in the shop. It's like it's good it's gonna

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buy some fags or something like that.

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That's not towards the end. It's a one minute 41

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coffin sneaks up.

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See? I wasn't lying.

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It must have been on wheels.

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Oh wait no that bit's not snowballing.

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That's on wheels that bit.

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What the fuck? They had

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multiple fucking coffin

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manoeuvring techniques. It's completely possible that it was

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on wheels they just cut the frames to make it look like stop motion.

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That would actually make sense now I think of it.

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Yeah, but it can't go on wheels on the dirt.

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So maybe this was a complete, another happy accident,

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failing upwards sort of thing.

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And they were like, shit, we can't roll the coffin

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because we're in the middle of a forest or woods or something.

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And so like, they were just like, stop motion.

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What with the coffin though?

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Like, obviously coffin, then Grim Reaper and Blood and all,

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but why?

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Like, did they miss some part of the song?

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The coffin is the only consistent thing in the whole video.

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And the dancing ladies.

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And the dancing ladies.

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They're dancing in the graveyard, though.

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Oh, yeah.

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Death is a theme in this.

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We found a theme.

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Yay.

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Although the coffin does seem to contain a possibly homeless guy playing guitar.

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No, he didn't come out of a coffin, though.

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He came out of a box, no?

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Is that a different thing?

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Fuck, I haven't watched this video.

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No, no, hold on.

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I'm going back to the...

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Oh, no, yeah, it's a coffin.

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It looks like a coffin.

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It also looks like someone standing up, standing behind it, propping it up, because it kind of

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shakes around.

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Possibly.

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Man, how stoned were they when they created this?

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Probably pretty.

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Well, if you look at 1 minute 19, you can see just how the stoned is.

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So I'll get a screenshot of that, actually.

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Just a little bit.

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The answer is yes.

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So yeah, starting with like this, which is them like spending $300 on a video in a graveyard,

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Going to winning a Grammy for Best Album in 2014 is quite the way to go.

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Man, he's really fucking prolific and he had so much music.

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Every single album is kind of different from the other mostly.

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He just doesn't really give a fuck, I guess.

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I like it that way.

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If you're a musician and you just keep doing the same things over and over, it can get kind of stale.

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So I've always kind of respected musicians who don't mind going a different direction every now and again or every album, whichever they prefer.

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If every album just sounds the same, you get kind of bored of it.

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Well, I guess it's very difficult for some musicians who have big fandom

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and specific things that their fans are expecting from them

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in terms of, like, music and output and shit.

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There's a lot of bands who kind of became known for whatever music

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and then they decided to switch it up and fans were, like, up in arms for it.

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This is kind of a common thing in all kind of art forms.

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Like, if you look at movies and stuff like that,

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take the fucking recent s*** thing as an example.

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it's like whenever they try to do

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anything even slightly different, all the fans go

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and then they kind of turn around

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and try and appease the fans

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and then that just winds up shit because

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it's not a real artistic vision, it's just trying to

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keep the fans happy. I think just in

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general, you know, fuck the fans, just do what you want.

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You said the words

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and now we're going to get

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rammed by f***ing fans.

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Oh no.

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I'll do a beck and

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censor the name of the

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name of the film it's fair we're going meta this podcast so should we have a quick talk about

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90s offbeat music videos because we did have for a while before i cleaned up the the list of music

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we did have a fair amount of videos that were there this were kind of like the same kind of just

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things happening and kind of low randomness what is your general opinion on song videos that are

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like this versus videos that have a story and it depends on the song really i think it works for a

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video like this because the song is kind of a random mishmash of stuff anyway but i don't know

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honestly i don't watch enough music videos to have an opinion on it you can have have videos that just

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are basically the story of the song in video form but they always seem a bit on the nose or you can

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have a completely different story but sometimes they don't feel like they link up to the music video

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or you can just have something completely random and weird i want to say that i think it's maybe

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quite telling that whoever funded the video just threw some money at Beck a very small amount they

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provided him with a camera film and just told him to go make a video and i think it's personally i

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prefer the style of this to a lot of other videos that are you know the way they're maybe approached

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and and thought out you know there are a lot a lot of other videos try to be like a film and you know

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sometimes you just need a random montage of someone just having a bit of fun i saw an interesting line

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in the in the wikipedia reads uh Beck insisted they were fucking around when they made the video he told

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option in 1984 we weren't making anything slick it was deliberately crude they deliberately made

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a point of fucking around which doesn't it make it a bit worse tiny bit no i think i've been on jobs

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where you're you're there on a job but you're kind of getting what you need by fucking around and that

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just kind of makes it better it's multitasking you're fucking around but you're also doing something

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at the same time it's uh efficient it must be fun to to have like a really well-known video and people

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I'll ask you,

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so what was the creative process

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behind your videos?

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Like,

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oh,

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we're just fucking around,

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mate.

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In that accent,

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yes.

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Really surprised.

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I mean,

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if you look at the view count

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of this video,

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it's 130 million.

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So it obviously resonated

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with a lot of people.

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And at least a million of those

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were us watching the video

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the last couple of days.

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Some Wade reaching

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fucking around right there.

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So who of you guys

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put the nose,

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why is everything on fire?

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What is on fire?

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Are you joking?

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Everything's on fire,

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Nelly.

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Did you not see the fire?

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What fire?

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I will list the fires.

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What are you talking about?

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Well, not everything is on fire, but a lot of things are definitely on fire.

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You're on fire.

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I know.

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Fuck, I've lost the fire.

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I've lost the fire, guys.

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There's no fire.

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I think the first fire's about halfway through.

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Two minutes, 44.

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He's swinging a guitar on fire.

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It looks like a recording from a live show.

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I think I did read that he did that sometimes.

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Oh, that's fire.

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When he's cleaning the window towards the end, three minutes, 15.

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He's like, he's like got a squeegee to clean a car window.

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That's on fire.

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Kind of reminds me of like a Turkish barbers where they do that thing where they kind of

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laugh the flame at your ears.

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Exactly the same, yes.

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So I guess it's, that's what it is.

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And I think there was one more.

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Oh, two minutes, two minutes 50.

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There's like a trippy inverted acoustic guitar fire play.

510
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,040
Yes.

511
00:21:26,420 --> 00:21:26,780
Yeah, there we go.

512
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,820
But that's not everything on fire, is it now?

513
00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:29,500
Okay, okay.

514
00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:33,000
Maybe I exaggerated with everything, but there's a significant amount of fire.

515
00:21:33,260 --> 00:21:37,240
But if they were just fucking around, then yeah, if setting stuff on fire was a good way

516
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,120
fucking around I can confirm that from my child.

517
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,280
So this is

518
00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:48,640
yet one of those

519
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,700
very well known videos which

520
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,080
I held very dearly to my heart

521
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,240
as it was among the ones

522
00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:56,940
that introduced me to

523
00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:58,980
Trinity Frog and just back

524
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,980
in general whose body of work has been

525
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,300
fantastic in my opinion

526
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,540
but upon revisiting the video

527
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,179
I kind of felt cheated and

528
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:13,200
a bit bored. It's probably the years of watching and working bad student productions that jaded me

529
00:22:13,460 --> 00:22:19,860
and probably I probably need to give it some credit for being an early 90s work but is being

530
00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:26,480
low budget a reason to just be so kind of cliche and overdone? Afterwards I kind of went back and

531
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:32,520
watched other Beck videos. Honestly my final point in his work is that he should just stay purely in

532
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:39,440
realms of sound like amazing music fantastic shy videos like all of them i liked this video when i

533
00:22:39,490 --> 00:22:44,320
first saw it still like it it's got a certain certain charm to it which i can't really can't

534
00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:48,500
can't really place i don't think it kind of matches the randomness of the lyrics and stuff like that

535
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:52,560
my only real complaint about it is uh it's difficult to talk about in a podcast because

536
00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:56,300
you don't really know what the fuck's going on still like it still like it's all and i'm actually

537
00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:59,879
gonna go and listen to more back stuff because i did it kind of made me realize that i'd never

538
00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:03,720
actually properly listened to him over the years. I've never listened to Beck before,

539
00:23:04,220 --> 00:23:09,860
so this is my sort of first experience. But I like this video. I think it kind of serves as a great

540
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:15,340
timepiece of the early 90s. And I kind of think in a way it reflects to what many people do now,

541
00:23:15,620 --> 00:23:19,020
especially with smartphones. You know, people document their life, the fun bits, the boring

542
00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:23,820
bits, the pointless bits, and bits only relevant to them. And I think ironically we've come around in

543
00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:28,739
a full circle. And I think this video is a little bit ahead of its time, sort of documentary and

544
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,580
kind of recording everything. But I don't like this song. I don't like the pace. It just doesn't

545
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:39,020
work for me. I find it really dull. I just doesn't really have a tune that resonates with me. But I'm

546
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:43,920
after kind of listening to a little bit of Beck's recent work. I kind of much prefer that. And I think

547
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,580
I will give Beck a little bit more of a chance and maybe add it to a couple of playlists that I listen

548
00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:54,679
to and see if I can sort of learn to like it. So, best moment for me is Beck with the leaf blower

549
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,980
for no reason, for no specific reason.

550
00:23:57,140 --> 00:23:58,840
It just made me laugh when I saw it.

551
00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:01,140
I also quite like the sitar

552
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,760
part of the song. Sounds

553
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,960
really cool. And the worst moment for me

554
00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:06,760
is anything in the sepia tone, negative

555
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,840
filter that just made my eyes hurt. I just

556
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,740
really hated it. My favourite moment is

557
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,680
the opening shot where he's walking along

558
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,820
with a blurred head slash Stormtrooper helmet

559
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,680
and he takes it off. I always liked it because

560
00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:18,440
I thought it was just cool that the

561
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,560
sensor thingy followed with him.

562
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,879
And I didn't know about the Stormtrooper thing until now

563
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,940
Although according to Wikipedia, the moment where Beck is wearing a stormtrooper mask is often censored for copyright reasons.

564
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,280
So it sounds like it's not always censored.

565
00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:35,520
It just depends on which version of the video you see.

566
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,240
So a lot of people out there might have completely different memories of that opening shot.

567
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,660
So I think that just adds to the intrigue of that particular shot.

568
00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:49,100
My worst part, at 1 minute 56, there's like a second of ridiculously overexposed footage.

569
00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:51,900
and I was leaning into my monitor

570
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,560
trying to watch for little details

571
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,320
and it nearly burned my fucking eyes out

572
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,680
so I didn't like that.

573
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,400
I can't see, thanks to Beck.

574
00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:01,340
Thank you Beck, but fortunately you don't need to see

575
00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:02,040
to do a podcast.

576
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,640
244 someone, I think it's Beck,

577
00:25:05,260 --> 00:25:07,220
sets himself on fire, just cuts off

578
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:09,500
just before anything bad

579
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,460
happens. I don't think anything bad does happen

580
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:13,540
but it just looks like he's engulfed by flames

581
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:15,280
which I thought was quite hilarious.

582
00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:18,100
I just watched that part.

583
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,060
yeah it's like the guitar around his head yeah yeah so it's probably just i don't know what it

584
00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:28,260
is the vapors or whatnot but yeah it does look pretty uh pretty violent it look it looks like he

585
00:25:28,420 --> 00:25:33,140
explodes but yeah the worst part i put down the actual song itself

586
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,820
i mean i think that's probably a bit too it's a bit too harsh um no it checks out it's fine

587
00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:47,279
if you like it you'll like it yeah sure back doesn't mind yeah he can cry in his millions

588
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,760
I'm going to give it an eye because Beck nearly set himself on fire and I admire that commitment.

589
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,580
If we had an option to kind of be on the fence, I would choose that.

590
00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:05,660
But I think I would probably give it an eye based on what Beck has kind of made from this point.

591
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,640
I'm going to give it a no and just hear me out on this.

592
00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:14,140
As a 90s music video, yeah, it's fantastic and everybody remembers it.

593
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,800
but I really don't think it stands on its legs nowadays.

594
00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:20,740
I think it's not good anymore.

595
00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:24,960
I just kind of looked at it through the eyes of not a teen and not a child

596
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,460
and it just doesn't do anything for me.

597
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,020
So I just, nah, it's not, nah.

598
00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:31,540
Still love Beck, but nah.

599
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:33,140
Nostalgia has no power over Neely.

600
00:26:33,540 --> 00:26:35,720
It does, but not with the video.

601
00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:40,300
It was weird because I started off like that thinking this is just kind of meh,

602
00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:42,040
but it kind of grew on me the more I watched it.

603
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,560
Yeah, but I don't know. It was the other way around for me.

604
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,220
It was like, I thought, oh yeah, it was really fun and cool.

605
00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:50,840
And when I watched it, I was like, oh fuck, I've seen like a million of these when I was a student.

606
00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:52,620
I'm bored of them.

607
00:26:52,860 --> 00:26:57,000
It definitely has become a thing or has always been a thing.

608
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,140
I don't know, but it's a common type of video where it's just lots of random shit.

609
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,820
And you kind of just go...

610
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,980
Yeah, oh well.

611
00:27:04,340 --> 00:27:07,520
Again, I'm sure he's crying his millions because of my opinion on the video.

612
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,360
What we do next week?

613
00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:22,880
Spread your sheets

614
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,860
Spread your boards

615
00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:26,500
Let me see those

616
00:27:27,460 --> 00:27:27,800
Columns

617
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:29,700
A number between, okay Dave

618
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,560
You get to choose a number between 2

619
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,640
And 53, go

620
00:27:33,780 --> 00:27:35,120
Say, say, say, say, just say a number

621
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:37,560
16

622
00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:38,120
we've done that one

623
00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:39,280
Dave say a number

624
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:39,900
22

625
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,320
we've done that one

626
00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:42,540
Dave say a number

627
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,060
35

628
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:44,900
35

629
00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:46,320
okay

630
00:27:46,570 --> 00:27:47,180
so 35

631
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:48,560
foreigner

632
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,940
I want to know

633
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,640
what love is

634
00:27:51,380 --> 00:27:52,300
I want to know

635
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,560
what love is

636
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:54,500
I want to

637
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:55,140
I got that one

638
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:57,940
okay

639
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,660
that is

640
00:27:58,860 --> 00:27:59,040
Mark

641
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,600
that's next

642
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,600
let's take a better one

643
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:00,960
bye

644
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,600
bye all

645
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:02,300
bye

646
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,220
see you next time

